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Nearly Half US Murder Victims are Black: Report


AFP, August 9, 2007

African-Americans are victims of nearly half the murders committed in the United States despite making up only 13 percent of the population, a report published Thursday showed.

Around 8,000 of nearly 16,500 murder victims in 2005, or 49 percent, were black Americans, according to the report released by the statistics bureau of the Department of Justice.

Broken down by gender, 6,800 black men were murdered in 2005, making up more than half the nearly 13,000 male murder victims.

Black women made up 35 percent, or 1,200, of the nearly 3,500 female homicide victims.

Young black men aged between 17 and 29 bore a disproportionately high burden in the grim statistics, making up 51 percent of African-American murder victims.

The percentage of white male murder victims in the same age group was 37 percent.

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Most murder victims — 93 percent of blacks and 85 percent of whites — were killed by someone of their own race.

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Blacks were also at greater risk of rape or sexual assault than any other ethnic group except American Indians, the report showed.

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(Posted on August 10, 2007)

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Notice how the article says that 93% of black victims were murdered by someone from their own race, and 85% of whites were murdered by someone from their own race. This means that whites are victims of blacks more than blacks are victims of whites. Of course, the artcile doesn’t mention that.

Posted by Roy at 5:20 PM on August 10

Don’t tell,I know that evil white spremacists are doing all the killing.

Posted by Todd at 5:24 PM on August 10

What is left for the reader to decipher is what percentage of the murderers were black? If 93% of the murders were by someone of their own African American race that would make roughly half the mureders are black while only making up 13% of the population. The Blacks can only be portrayed in the media as victims never the guilty.

Posted by Tim at 5:29 PM on August 10

Only 93% of blacks killed were by other blacks?

I would have thought it would be closer to 100%.

The only thing I can figure out is if white policemen were involved.

Posted by Dennis at 5:35 PM on August 10

Old news. For a ‘Man bites dog’ story, they could have looked at the number of blacks killing whites.

Posted by LHathaway at 5:41 PM on August 10

>>>8,000 of nearly 16,500 murder victims in 2005, or 49 percent, were black Americans

With every effort being made to BLAME WHITE AMERICANS as the killers — by the media, and the liberal lunatic fringe types. Never mind that Blacks are the most generally sociopathic and dysfunctional race of people on our planet.

What is noticeably missing in the article: The number of White people raped or murdered by Blacks (Afro-Americans). But that would not make a newsworthy story and therefore is ignored in this article.

Posted by Fed Up at 5:48 PM on August 10

How much is Black on White crime? Of course, Blacks kill Blacks… BECAUSE of gang and drug wars!

Posted by at 6:15 PM on August 10

How are we to fix something if we don’t know the problem? Sharpton and Jackson don’t seem to have much of a problem with black on black crime. If anything they practically advocate legalizing black on black crime by omission. Maybe if we did legalize black on black crime the courts wouldn’t be so backed up and the whit taxpayers would get the law and order they pay for.

Posted by at 6:47 PM on August 10

“Blacks were also at greater risk of rape or sexual assault than any other ethnic group except American Indians, the report showed.”

RK: They failed to explain a couple of important statistics. The black murder victims are almost exclusively killed by other blacks or mestizos.

And blacks comprise about 12% of the population, but commit 58% of all violent crime.

And blacks commit black on white rape at more than 100 times than the other way around.

Too, notice that the Wichita murders were ignored by the MSM, as well as the Tennessee murders of Christian and Newsome, but every network on television is giving extended coverage to the blacks killed execution style by the illegal immigrant, plus they ignore hundreds of similar black on white murders every year. Blacks received what they’ve been perpetrating against whites for 40 years.

So as far as the recent execution of these blacks go, “Cry me a river.”

Posted by Robert Kelly at 7:16 PM on August 10

This means that a white murder victim is about twice as likely to be killed by a non-white than a black murder victim is to be killed by a non-black.

Even though Hispanics are counted as whites for the purpose of counting crime perpetrators and those on public assistance, Hispanics do have their own category for crime victims. This means that of the “85 percent of whites that were killed by someone of their own race,” the victims were all white, but some of these “white perpetrators” could be Hispanic.

The article says a lot about the racial makeup of victims, and what kind of weapon was used, but nothing about the racial makeup of the murderers.

The original article says that “Gang violence was involved in around five percent of homicides with black victims against seven percent for white victims.” This is a curious one. This means that a white murder victim (i.e. not Hispanic) is 40% more likely to be killed by gang violence than a black murder victim. Since gang violence among whites is almost nil, this means that black and Hispanic gangs murder whites more often than blacks or Hispanics.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 7:17 PM on August 10

Attempts to portray blacks as the victims of whites fail, but that doesn’t stop them from trying.
The big problem that the media won’t ever mention, is that 13% of the population commits over half the murders.

Posted by say it right at 8:14 PM on August 10


An interesting statistic here: of 16,500 murders, men were victims in 13,000 cases.

Liberals might want to point out this imbalance as a “disparity” which needs to be addressed.

Posted by Reader-1 at 9:06 PM on August 10

Does this mean Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have to stop harping about a legal system that “excels at incarcerating young black men” when it is very obvious that the majority of this countries murder victims are black, and their murderers are black, thus the majority incarcerated for murder would be black.

Posted by Patrick at 9:58 PM on August 10

Here is a link for an unedited look at the statistics. Clearly the samestream media completely ignored the “offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites” statistic.

https://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

Posted by Timber Wolf at 11:20 PM on August 10

To quote a black columnist from Miami “Cry Me A River”.

I eagerly aware his next column and his statement of same…I am sure his opinion of black on white crime will be the same as his opinion on black on black crime.

Posted by Al Jackson at 11:38 PM on August 10


“Most murder victims — 93 percent of blacks and 85 percent of whites — were killed by someone of their own race.”

Blacks are victims at the hands of 7% Whites and ‘others’ while Whites are victims at the hands of 15% blacks and ‘others’.

In other words, Whites are victimized by non-whites at a rate of over two times that of blacks by non-blacks.

Send this report to Tim Wise and let him debunk it.

Leonard Pitts needs a copy too.

Posted by sbuffalonative at 11:50 PM on August 10

Rather then tell us how many Black murder victims there are, why
not tell us the percentage of black MURDERERS!

Also note how the article MISCHARACTERIZES information. 93% of

Blacks are killed by their own race and 85% of Whites.

Or in other words only 7% of Blacks are killed by non-Blacks

while the figure for Whites being killed by non-Whites is 15% -

which is more then TWICE as high. Conclusion: Blacks kill more

Blacks AND MORE WHITES then their numbers would properly warrant

but this article isn’t structured to READ that way.

Posted by at 12:21 AM on August 11


One thing this reminds me is what a disaster left-liberal

politicians, with their focus on gun control and open

borders, have been for law-abiding blacks.

Posted by Larry at 1:04 AM on August 11

This Baltimore radio talk show host, Ron Smith, wrote up an excellent editorial about this article. It’s titled “Wrong Headline” and tells of how the stats regarding the black murder rate have been reframed for political correctness.

https://wbal.com/shows/smith/commentary/story.asp?articleid=61785

Posted by Tony S at 2:41 AM on August 11

“Since gang violence among whites is almost nil, this means that black and Hispanic gangs murder whites more often than blacks or Hispanics.”

I’ve never seen this one on TV! Tho I’ve seen plenty of specials concerned about the practice of gang members killing other gang members… And plenty of concern about black on black crime and never concern about the disproportionate, and racist, black on white crime. The more crime they commit against whites, it seems the more they talk-about black on black crime.

For those who observe that, each year, 20,000 white women are rapped by blacks, but they can only find around 100 alleged cases of the reverse (actually, 16,000 murders? at one time there were nearly 30,000 murders taking place each year) I think what’s going on here, is that, it’s possible, the average white male is physically unable to force an average black female. There’s other ways the all powerful can commit rape, tho.

Posted by LHathaway at 7:15 AM on August 11

“Too, notice that the Wichita murders were ignored by the MSM, as well as the Tennessee murders of Christian and Newsome, but every network on television is giving extended coverage to the blacks killed execution style by the illegal immigrant…”

Good point! Another thing about that illegal immigrant (hispanic) is the Gov. will categorize him as a White, therefore, it will be recorded as a White on Black crime. This is a deliberate practice by the Gov. to obfuscate and distort the true interracial crime statistics. Gee, I wonder why they do that?

Posted by at 8:58 AM on August 11

I have to hand it to Neil Boortz. On talk radio yesterday, not only was he presenting these facts, but he was also making clear to the audience that a disproportionate amount of blacks murder(something this article does not do). The only complaint I have is that he attributed it to culture instead of race. He kept calling it a “crowded urban thing”, but why is it that whites that live under the same conditions don’t act this way?

Rush Limbaugh does something similar. Lately he has been talking a lot about the most corrupt and lawless cities in the nation (Detriot; Newark…) and blaming it on the liberal establishment in those areas. Yet, once again, he doesn’t put two and two together and explain why the blacks put these liberals into power in their areas and why whites don’t behave the same way. Are we really this stupid?

Posted by Courtney at 9:17 AM on August 11


“Most murder victims — 93 percent of blacks and 85 percent of whites — were killed by someone of their own race.”

Blacks are victims at the hands of 7% Whites and ‘others’ while Whites are victims at the hands of 15% blacks and ‘others’.

In other words, Whites are victimized by non-whites at a rate of over two times that of blacks by non-blacks.

Send this report to Tim Wise and let him debunk it.

Leonard Pitts needs a copy too.

Posted by sbuffalonative at 9:55 AM on August 11

Did anyone see GMA this morning? THey had a segment on about a dog who “shot someone”. The “family” dog was walking past a coffee table in the living room of his house and his tail brushed a loaded and apparently cocked semi-auto hand gun off the table. The gun hit the floor and discharged; wounding a member of the family. Shocking disclosure, the “family” was Black.
On MY coffee table there are books, magazines and a few conversation pieces. My guns are locked away in a safe but easily accessible should they be needed. There was a similar case in Philly a couple of years ago where a small child picked up a pistol from a living room table and either shot himself or another child. It seems that a pistol might be something more frequently found on coffee table in some Afro-American households than would an issue of Cigar Aficionado, Popular Mechanics or an art book containing the works of El Greco.

Posted by at 10:01 AM on August 11

What percentage of the Whites perps are hispanic or muslim?

Posted by RebelCelt at 10:29 AM on August 11

Big sigh…..it’s the same story across the entire EARTH. Any country,any county,any state,any city, or any BUSINESS that has a large african population will have a huge problem with violent crime.
It’s time to stop wondering why and recognize the problem and the pattern.

Posted by Cliff Yablonski at 11:38 AM on August 11

” I think what’s going on here, is that, it’s possible, the average white male is physically unable to force an average black female. “

If that’s true, I think it disturbs me more than anything else I’ve EVER read on this website! Time to hit the gym.

Posted by at 11:40 AM on August 11

the article mentions 85% of whites were murdered by other whites. i find that hard to believe. i wonder how many of those so-called “white” perpetrators were actually hispanic… and here ILLEGALLY.

Posted by fred at 12:05 PM on August 11

LHathaway: the highest number of homicides peaked at 24,700 in 1991

check here:https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

*****
“Blacks were also at greater risk of rape or sexual assault than any other ethnic group EXCEPT American Indians, the report showed.”

What the hell is going on with American Indians?

Posted by Ronduck at 12:12 PM on August 11

Courtney, very good point.

Rush is actually a blank slate enthusiast. He completely disregards inborn intelligence differences between the races and believes hard work and drive can change a Bantu into a Newton. This is one reason why he was forced by his callers to address the amnesty being pushed in 2006 and again this year. As a blank slate multiculturalist, he believes we can “assimilate” all comers. This is why he hasn’t addressed immigration until the last two years. It’s odd how the guy on the “leading edge of societal evolution” can look at “inner city blight” and fail to understand that he’s looking at black civilization, not a failure of liberal policy.

Posted by apostate at 12:48 PM on August 11

What percentage of the Whites perps are hispanic or muslim?

Posted by RebelCelt at 10:29 AM on August 11

Amen! Moreover, how many of those white on black crimes were actually committed in the act of self-defense. John Lott, author of “More Guns - Less Crime” has documented how many lives are saved in the act of self-defense by gun owners. I wonder how many, like the recent amren story about the sub shop patron, were acts of self defense against minority criminals.

Posted by voir dire at 1:00 PM on August 11

Courtney:

Rush L., and other similar “mainstream” conservatives, like to talk about how big cities have failed because liberal Democrats run them.

I’m no liberal, but this is a bit of a bromide. Take Chicagograd, People’s Republic of Illinois, for example. The same liberal regime runs the whole city, but one wouldn’t say that most of the north side of Chicago has “failed.” They would say that about most of the south half.

I wonder what the difference could be….

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 1:36 PM on August 11

Ah yes.. but how many hispanics are black. How many muslims originate in mexico. How many blacks are muslim?? I have carried out an extensive mathamatical research calculation involving psudo-methodology, poking around sheep-guts, reading tea-leaves and figuring out how many times a suitcase rotates through an average airport luggage belt before being collected. The answer to this, and everything else, is, of course, 42. The square root of this is 6.48, the EXACT percentage number of any africans born in the whole wide world, (www) expected to be alive at 6.48 years from birth and to survive mosquitoes, crocodiles and being killed by other blacks in Atlanta or from falling coconuts in Alaska.
I welcome any comments regarding the accuracy of my figures as, because I am White, I just may be wrong. Lordy, Lordy and pass the biscuits!!!

Posted by yorkshireman at 1:43 PM on August 11

There are lots of Hispanic/Black gang wars. This probably accounts for a lot of the “other”.

Posted by at 2:46 PM on August 11

“In other words, Whites are victimized by non-whites at a rate of over two times that of blacks by non-blacks.”

Of the approximately 1,700,000 interracial crimes of violence each year, nearly 1,200,000 involved black-white crime. In 90% of those crimes, black offenders attacked white victims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime
Race and crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Posted by David at 3:38 PM on August 11

“Most murder victims — 93 percent of blacks and 85 percent of whites — were killed by someone of their own race.”

What’s lost in that is that a black person is 11 times more likely to kill a white than the other way around, and at one time, at the height of hate-crime coverage, the rate was much higher than that.

Posted by LHathaway at 4:01 PM on August 11

Everyone believing the 7% (white against black) theory needs to back up for a moment.

Just because 93% of blacks murder those of their own race DOES NOT mean the remaing 7% of black murders were committed by whites. Of that remaing 7% of murders, how many were committed by Hispanics? I suggest at least 5% based on common sense.

Therefore Blacks might be murdered by Whites about 2% of the time and yet when this rare occurence takes place .. the racial clown act of SharpTongue & Jackson hits the media with screams of racism and the media is right there slinging it out to the crowd.

Posted by Lucas M at 4:14 PM on August 11

“…John Lott, author of “More Guns - Less Crime” has documented how many lives are saved in the act of self-defense by gun owners…”

Stephanie:

John uses a figure of one million lives saved each year from self-defense by gun — it’s the ONLY thing that stops a rape.
He goes on to state that MANY ‘brandishings of a gun’ are never, ever reported to the police — for good reason.

Two of my friends have brandished guns — one, a mild mannered man who found himself in a road rage incident, and a female who said gang members surrounded her car at a stop light — she thought she was about to be carjacked. Neither one reported a thing to the police and both felt strongly that the gun prevented either their deaths or great bodily harm.

For the record, from the Color of Crime:

”..The black rate is more than 55 times the white rate, meaning that the average black was 55 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa. In the case of robbery, or “mugging,” blacks were 103 times more likely to go after whites than the reverse. These figures are shown on the graph on this page.

The numbers are even worse for group attacks. For overall group violence, the black-on-white rate is 102 times the white-on-black rate, and for robbery it is 277 times the white-on-black rate…”

/997issue/997issue.html#cover


I know this gets posted a lot but (as Robert wrote) it needs to repeated again and again and again and again….


Bon

Posted by BonBon at 12:15 AM on August 12

Why is it that…oh…75% of the posts here speak of Mexicans attacking blacks being counted as white, but…oh…0% consider the opposite scenario Mexicans being attacked blacks being counted as white.

Posted by at 3:24 AM on August 12

Not only are blacks their own worst enemies, they are everyone’s worst enemies…

Posted by at 9:54 AM on August 12

I would take the black problem over the hispanic takeover any day of the week. Communists in the media and government are delibarately destroying this country through illegal immigration. Forget about the blacks for heaven’s sake.

Posted by Ray M. at 10:05 AM on August 12

Anonymous said:

Pending Why is it that…oh…75% of the posts here speak of Mexicans attacking blacks being counted as white, but…oh…0% consider the opposite scenario Mexicans being attacked blacks being counted as white.

Because Hispanic crime victims are counted as Hispanics. They’re only counted as white when they commit crimes or use welfare. The purpose is to make “whites” look a little less bad when compared to blacks.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 11:11 AM on August 12

Courtney wrote: “The only complaint I have is that he attributed it to culture instead of race. He kept calling it a “crowded urban thing”, but why is it that whites that live under the same conditions don’t act this way?

Rush Limbaugh does something similar….Are we really this stupid?”

Courtney, the right wing talk show hosts operate — or are constrained — within in the mainstream media. If they came right out and attributed black behavior to genetics, all their sponsors would pull the advertising for obvious reasons. But Rush, Boortz, et al are clever, they use the word liberal[s] as a broad stroke affront to expose the utter uselessness of liberalism (mostly practiced by whites) as a tactic solve black problems. On the other hand they promote “conservatism” to solve those problems. According to conservatism, the very things that sustain black pathological behaviors would be abolished. Those being: affirmative action, forced integration, Section 8 housing, Dept of Education, hate crime laws, abortion on demand, etc. But the most important thing the conservatives should do is eliminate the welfare-state.

As soon as the welfare-state became too generous, it allowed blacks to revert back to their natural familial patterns like those they practised in Africa. That being black men impregnating as many women as they can, then skipping the scene leaving only mammy to raise the kid. And the more kids mammy has, the bigger the ADC check.


The fact is generous welfare programs such as ADC (aid to dependent children)generates all sorts of social pathologies in the black comunity which in turn makes life miserably for everyone that lives in close proximity to them.

Liberalism,(enforced by white liberals) has provided a gravy for blacks. A gravy train in the form of affirmative action, ADC, WIC, plus a whole plethora of protections and special privileges. If we can defeat liberalism, blacks will be forced to conform to societal norms or go by the way of the DODO bird.

Posted by at 11:14 AM on August 12

Ray M:

Given the Hobson’s Choice, I would rather have blacks as a minority population than Hispanics. Yes, blacks are even more prone to criminality on average, but they’re also less intelligent, and easier to control and intimidate. Therefore, a system like Jim Crow, segregation and apartheid can work to make blacks behave (notice — MS had the lowest murder rate of any state in the union in 1900, even with the highest black percentage then), but those kinds of paradigms won’t work with Hispanics and Arabs — they’re too smart to succumb to those mental games.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 11:27 AM on August 12

Witness the Black murder rate in Philadelphia. Soaring rapidly to an all-time record. All of them having been MURDERED BY FELLOW BLACKS! Philly’s joke of a police commissioner and his equally dumb sidekick, Milton Street, can only pin the blame “on the gun culture and ready availability of guns.” Which, from THEIR perspective is better than the admission Blacks, generally, are the most dystunctiona, pathologically failed race of sociopaths and misfits on the face of our planet. An analysis amply supported should you wish to look the sorry record of Blacks in Africa, or those Blacks that migrated to the European nations from Africa.

Although a former Philadelphian, I still have friends in Philly I communicate with. Including some who are police officers. You should hear what the average White Philly police officer thinks of both Milton Street and his police commissioner. (With good reason!)

Posted by Fed Up at 11:27 AM on August 12

Liberals love to make a big fuss over “black on black crime” because they hope (and imagine) that those same black murderers will read these articles an start murdering (evil)whites instead or stop murdering alltogether.

Here’s a thought: how many of those blacks, murdered by other blacks, would have gone on to murder a white person had they lived? Most people’s gut reaction would be to be appalled by this question, and yet there is no doubt that a huge proportion of those victims were criminals themselves. Aren’t we all safer with less criminals on the streets?

Posted by jewamongyou at 1:13 PM on August 12

Talking about rampant black on WHITE murders, jury selection is finally underway for the September 23, 1983 massacre of five whites at a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Kilgore in East Texas by two black killers. These five whites were slaughtered by two blacks, Romeo Pinkerton being the first to go to trial, who were found through DNA evidence a couple years ago.
What is of particular interest in this case, is that many years ago a couple of completely innocent whites had been “Nyfonged” (railroaded), before being completely exhonerated, and the real, black, killers found through DNA.

YOU REALLY NEED TO READ THE FULL STORY ON THIS THAT WAS RUN IN THE DALLAS PAPER AROUND TWO YEARS AGO.

Posted by at 1:33 PM on August 12

Please folk, when referring to the crime of rape in past tense, the word is ‘raped’, not rapped unless you mean any of the following interpretations

1. To hit sharply and swiftly; strike: rapped the table with his fist.
2. To utter sharply: rap out a complaint.

3. To criticize or blame.

v.intr.

To strike a quick light blow: rapped on the door.

n.

1. A quick light blow or knock.

2. A knocking or tapping sound.

3. Slang

a. A reprimand.

b. A sentence to serve time in prison.

4. Slang A negative quality or characteristic associated with a person or an object.

Idioms:

beat the rap Slang

To escape punishment or be acquitted of a charge.

take the rap Slang

To accept punishment or take the blame for an offense or error.

Posted by A Swain at 2:48 PM on August 12

“Why is it that…oh…75% of the posts here speak of Mexicans attacking blacks being counted as white, but…oh…0% consider the opposite scenario Mexicans being attacked blacks being counted as white.

Posted by at 3:24 AM on August 12”


Because when Mexicans are victims, they are listed as “Hispanic.”

Posted by at 7:06 PM on August 12

America doesn’t have a gun problem, it has a race problem.

Posted by Schopfergeist at 11:34 PM on August 12

“Here’s a thought: how many of those blacks, murdered by other blacks, would have gone on to murder a white person had they lived?”

Well considering that there are 36 million blacks in the US, and that the black on black victims were selected, roughly, at random, and that there were 516 whites killed by blacks in 2005 (including Hispanics); The answer would be about ONE IN SEVEN-HUNDRED-THOUSAND (roughly speaking of course.)

Posted by at 1:38 AM on August 13

On the TV show 60 Minutes last night Anderson Cooper did a story about how pervasive it is in the black “community’ not to report any crime to the police no matter how serious the crime. It appears the rappers have a no snitchin campaign and all the fools in the ghetto follow right along with it. There are murders where the police know there were dozens of witnesses yet nobody will come forward.
What does this tell you about a large part of the black population? It says they have absolutely no desire to become part of mainstream America, that they are as a group morally corrupt and either unwilling or unable to live up to the white standard of morality. If this is not justification for segregation than nothing is.

Posted by Robert at 7:36 AM on August 13

“Anonymous said:

“Pending Why is it that…oh…75% of the posts here speak of Mexicans attacking blacks being counted as white, but…oh…0% consider the opposite scenario Mexicans being attacked blacks being counted as white.”

This is how our federal Department of Justice wants it. When local police departments send in their yearly statistics with hispanic criminals classified as hispanic the DOJ sends the statistics back with instructions to change the hispanics to white.

Their are a couple of reasons for this. It makes whites look bad and our federal government hates us. It hides the incredible amount of hispanic crime. And if hispanic crime statistics were honestly reported, the ADL, ACLU, SPLC, NOW and other anti white legal groups would start suing for equal representation of real whites in arrests and incarcerations.

That would mean a monster jump in crime because local courts would not be able to convict and incarcerate hispanic criminals until an equal number of real whites had been railroaded.

Posted by margaret at 11:25 AM on August 13

“” I think what’s going on here, is that, it’s possible, the average white male is physically unable to force an average black female. “”

The average white criminal is afraid to go into a black neighborhood looking for black crime victims.

Posted by margaret at 11:28 AM on August 13

To Bon Bon:

U. of FL professor Gary Kleck estimates that guns are used about 1.5 million to 2.5 million times per year, to save lives and thwart crimes. In most of these cases, the mere brandishing of a weapon, without firing it, was sufficient to stop an attack.

Most of the situations like you described go unreported, BECAUSE people don’t want the cops to know they were armed- cops foam at the mouth at the mere thought that John and Jane Citizen can provide for their own defense, if need be.

God made man and woman - Sam Colt made them equal.

Posted by Soprano Fan at 12:59 PM on August 13

In spite of the high rate at which blacks are victimized by other blacks, the “Stop Snitching” campaign continues to gain ground.

Posted by Michael C. Scott at 1:08 PM on August 13

I would have enjoyed this story much more if it had also included statistics of the racial make-up of the murderers and not just the victims. That is, if it was accurate.

Posted by Shawn (the female) at 2:53 PM on August 13

One thing to consider when taking into account that 93% of blacks are murdered by blacks and 85% of whites are murdered by whites (or Latinos who are lumped in there to make it seem more ‘equitable’), is that blacks have successfully ethnically cleansed whites from many of the areas they once inhabited that are now, I suspect, some of the areas with higher murder rates. Whites are somewhat insulated from the violence of blacks because they have the good sense to get away from them.

Posted by Thorfinnr at 4:07 PM on August 13

LHathaway wrote:

“For a ‘Man bites dog’ story, they could have looked at the number of blacks killing whites.”

Usually they pine for such a story. Unless it breaks any of their sacred PC rules. Then suddenly they drop it. The MSM has become so predictable it is hardly any different from the fishwrap at your local supermarket.

Posted by at 5:04 PM on August 13

St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister:

Apartheid worked on the principle of deterrence. The cops were tough and consequent. Getting involved with the law did not pay. And blacks knew that the cops and the Army found anyone they were looking for. There will a come a time when even liberals will want this type of law enforcement again, which was considered the most normal thing after the war.

Posted by at 5:12 PM on August 13

“Liberals love to make a big fuss over “black on black crime” because they hope (and imagine) that those same black murderers will read these articles an start murdering (evil)whites instead or stop murdering alltogether.”

I don’t really think this is what is happening. Saying its “black on black” is a safe way to report the high numbers of blacks involved in crime.

Otherwise, as in the past, they just wouldn’t report it at all.

Next step will probably be openly reporting crimes rates among minorities — black on Asian, etc. They’re already venturing into reporting black and Hispanic intergroup crime. How edgy!

Maybe someday they will feel “safe” enough to tell the truth about ALL crime statistics by race, without all this fudging around.

Posted by at 6:55 PM on August 13

Yes anonymous at 6:55, there is certainly some truth in your post that “black on black crime” is a safe way to report black crime. It also seems to be true that some progress is being made against the curse of political correctness.

Posted by jewamongyou at 12:38 AM on August 14

To Robert: Excellent post!

I saw that 60 Minutes story. At first, I was amazed that they were even doing a story on such a topic at all. But then I realized that, OF COURSE, the story was nothing to give any credibility to, because it was being done in the typical “sugarcoat” way - you know, where the media pretends to “expose” the problem, but in fact, just portrays blacks as innocent “victims” of society, environment, poverty, etc., and allows them to vent their anger and blame at everyone and everything but their own race. Did you see the part where that one black actually said something like, “Well, whites are the ones who make the guns; we’re just rappin’ here…”, etc.? See - it’s somehow always OUR fault. Likewise, did you notice how the entire story was (as usual) only about black-on-black crime, and how there was NO mention whatsoever of BLACK-ON-WHITE crime - AND the fact that, undoubtedly, countless of these very crimes which blacks are “not witnessing” are crimes against WHITES.

Needless to say, it is an absolute joke whenever “news” reporters do these kinds of stories. They don’t ever bring up any of the common sense, logical, obvious points that one WOULD bring up, nor do they ever question the blacks’ nonsense, vile, racist rhetoric. But why would they? Members of the media do only the below-minimum, PC, make-no-waves little stories on these problems - then, they retreat to the safety and comfort of their lily-white worlds, where these problems will never be an issue for THEM anyway.

Posted by Carrie K. at 7:02 AM on August 14

Most “white” killers of blacks will be overwhelmingly Mestizo Hispanics.

Posted by Jack Aubrey at 5:24 PM on August 14


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