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Tim Evans, Indianapolis Star, January 24, 2008

About eight in 10 black children in Indiana are born to unwed parents — a start to life that sets them up for problems during adolescence and beyond, according to an Indiana Black Expo report.

Indiana’s black youths fare significantly worse than Hoosier youths in general across 18 indicators of well-being, such as graduation rates and poverty levels, and do worse than black youths in the U.S, according to the report being released Friday.

Tanasha Anders, acting president and chief executive of Indiana Black Expo, said the problem comes down to education — making sure young people finish school and understand the consequences of having a baby.

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The explosion of births to unwed parents is driving many of the state’s social problems, such as increases in poverty and child abuse and the growing cost of public aid, said Bill Stanczykiewicz, president and CEO of the Indiana Youth Institute. He added that the problem is not exclusive to any one race.

Indiana’s out-of-wedlock birthrate is at an all-time high, with unwed mothers accounting for nearly 40 percent of all births, he said. Nationally, about 36 percent of all births are to unwed mothers.

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Another complicating factor is that a growing number of the single-parent births are to young adults, instead of teens, and that requires a new and different kind of message. But finding a way to address the situation is critical, he said.

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The issues that spin out of struggling single-parent families show up throughout the new Black Expo report, including the teen birth rate of 81 per 1,000 for blacks. That is almost twice the state’s overall teen birth rate of 43.5 per 1,000.

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To address the growing out-of-wedlock birthrates, the Black Expo report calls for increasing resources for sex education programs with proven track records and public education campaigns that promote healthy marriage.

Curt Smith, president of the Indiana Family Institute, which advocates for traditional families and values, blames the sexual revolution, no-fault divorce and the more recent discussions about same-sex marriage and other “marriage substitutes.”

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While the battles over social values are being waged in churches and the Statehouse, Betty Cockrum, president and CEO of Planned Parenthood of Indiana, said young people need accurate and comprehensive education about sex and family planning.

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Cockrum said Indiana is struggling, at least in part, because of the state’s strong conservative bent and a belief that information about sex should be taught by parents.

That philosophy shows up in state requirements for insurers: States such as California, Washington and Wisconsin require insurance companies to provide coverage for contraception; Indiana does not. And Indiana’s Medicaid program — which pays for more than half of all births in the state — does not provide family planning services. At least 25 other states do.

Black Expo’s Anders said officials hope the new report, based on data from 2004-05, will be a call to action for families, civic and faith groups, public agencies and political leaders.

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Indiana comparisons

*Estimate based on 2004 National Center for Education Statistics data and 2004 American Community
Survey population data. Calculation by the Indiana Youth Institute.
**U.S. comparison statistic is for 2005.

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(Posted on January 25, 2008)

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Does anyone remember “Love Child” by Diana Ross and the Supremes? How times have changed!

Posted by Peejay in Frisco at 6:08 PM on January 25


Indiana’s black youths fare significantly worse than Hoosier youths in general across 18 indicators of well-being, such as graduation rates and poverty levels, and do worse than black youths in the U.S, according to the report being released Friday.

If you’re a native St. Louisan, you’ll laugh at that paragraph, before you understand that this article is about Indiana.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 6:15 PM on January 25


A few years back there was a strong rumor that a soda pop called Tropical Fantasy contained this very sort of thing and this rumor set off a panic in the ghetto. Turns out the company was black owned and it was suspected that big name brand competitors started the rumor to try and put them out of business!

Posted by Hotrin at 6:25 PM on January 25


‘The explosion of births to unwed parents is driving many of the state’s social problems, such as increases in poverty and child abuse and the growing cost of public aid, said Bill Stanczykiewicz, president and CEO of the Indiana Youth Institute. He added that the problem is not exclusive to any one race.’

They talk about the overwhelming problems in the black community yet always a disclaimer that ‘the problem is not exclusive to any one race.’ Pray, it it a big problem in asian families? I don’t think so. Incredible.

Posted by at 6:25 PM on January 25


The fact is that out of wedlock births, to use a traditional term, have been averaging over 70% for blacks for years now, since the 1970’s. The usual suspects are government incentives, low IQ, social attitudes in the black community, etc.

There can be no doubt that single “motherhood” has become the norm in the US black community. However, there was a time, prior to the civil rights movement of the early 60’s, when the black family structure was much more stable and rates of out of wedlock births were near the then low white norm(in the early 1950’s). What this implies is that there is nothing inherent about low IQ blacks which necessarily leads to this problem as black IQ’s have not changed during the last 50 years.

Rather, blacks appear to be especially susceptible to incentives which result in family break down, crime and single parenthood. Such susceptibility is no doubt linked to low IQ, poor impulse control, etc. What is truly amazing and will be well known to anyone who knows any blacks is just how much such behavior has been transformed into the norm. There is no longer any social stigma in the black community attached to single motherhood. It is the new norm and the problems which it engenders will be with us for as far as one can see.

Posted by at 7:08 PM on January 25


They gotta get that check. They think of their babies as dolls. They dress their toddlers in expensive, hip baby clothes. They don’t think about next week.

Posted by GAonMYmind at 7:54 PM on January 25


Where is the “Whites Overall” on this?

Posted by Bandmo at 7:58 PM on January 25


This has nothing to do with social values, sex education, no-fault divorce, the sexual revolution or the availability of contraception, and it doesn’t make sense to refer to it as a “problem with the black community.” With an 80 percent illegitimacy rate, there is no “community” involved here and calling it a “problem” implies that the situation is out of the ordinary somehow. This is completely normal for blacks. White liberals can yammer all they like about “family planning,” but it won’t change a thing.

Posted by Spengler at 8:30 PM on January 25


Actually it is higher, since many blacks feel common law marriage is the same as the real thing, while others are confused what the word marriage really is/means and a few lie about being married (being actually embarrassed about their out of wedlock children).

Posted by Sissy White at 9:01 PM on January 25


Here’s a scary projection: the future children of the CHILDREN of these minority unwed teenage mothers, statistically speaking, are virtually preordained to “evolve” in less than a decade from now (2018 on), within patterns of black social pathology that are sure to be worse than even today (when statistical trends are taken into consideration).

…/…

Consider post-colonial Africa: every country there save SA has DEVOLVED considerably since the continent-wide societal breakdown that commenced - uncomfortably for the cultural marxists - a mere five years after the end of European rule.

…/…

Black societal pathoplogy in the US will worsen over time, according to reliable statistics.

Any AmRen posters care to explain why this is so?

Posted by from new orleans at 9:17 PM on January 25


Black women know perfectly well about contraception. But they won’t get a welfare check for not having a baby.

Posted by WR the elder at 9:47 PM on January 25


This is an effect, not a cause. Everything the report attributes to the bastardization of blacks would be there regardless. It’s those things that have lead to the unwed state.

This is extremely important to know. You cannot fix this. More money. More WELFARE. More incentives to get and stayed married….completely ineffective. The root cause of the increase is simply that our socialist system allows these people to survive even though they engage in this depraved behavior. Normally, this behavior would be a death sentence for the individual and the families. It is counter to survival. And we are doing something wrong by preventing these consequences.

We should end all welfare for blacks immediately.

Posted by at 9:59 PM on January 25


“About eight in 10 black children in Indiana are born to unwed parents”

Right off the bat this statement is patently untrue.

Eight in 10 black babies are NOT born to unwed parents, they are born to unwed mothers. The “fathers” have moved on to other women or prison long before the babies arrive.

Posted by Lucas M at 10:13 PM on January 25


More Marxist lies and scape-goating by your local ” black activist group ” ; aka, Marxist, racist, bigoted group. They can’t ” put up ’ so they take the much easier ” shut up ” method of socialistic, racist, bigoted finger pointing. So what else is new ?

Posted by Michigan patriot at 10:14 PM on January 25


I don’t know why this statistic would be suprising to anyone. Illegitimate babies appear to be a cottage industry in the black culture. You see, it’s just a matter of dollars since each kid is worth welfare handouts to the mother. Just another way they have found to milk those of us that actually contribute something meaningful to society.

Posted by at 10:17 PM on January 25


“We should end all welfare for blacks immediately.”

That’s a very good idea. It’s important we do this immediately. Who would have guessed? Race based solutions turn out to be the best way to go after all.

Posted by Mr Pibb at 10:33 PM on January 25


Small wonder their is such a high rate of AID’s among them, with so much promiscuity, and so little protection involved.

Posted by at 10:38 PM on January 25


“Cockrum said Indiana is struggling, at least in part, because of the state’s strong conservative bent and a belief that information about sex should be taught by parents.”

So in other words: expecting teenagers to keep their legs shut until marriage is hopeless, and the state, not parents, knows best on teaching kids about sex.

Same song…millionth verse. Typical liberal nonsense at work here. The REAL reason Indiana is struggling is because their teenage population (I refuse to call them young adults) refuse to stop screwing like alley cats.

Posted by Dark-Star at 11:02 PM on January 25


Daniel Patrick Moynihan, one of the great Liberals of his
day, reported on the beginings of this in his report on breakdown

of the Black family. In it, he correctly pointed to welfare as

the cause. A woman can make more alone with a baby than she

could with the typical Black husband. Shortly after this report,

the Marxists strengthened their hold and it became impossible to

talk straight about this. Any politician who said what he said

now would be drummed out of public life. Cant reigns supreme and

our leaders rave and wax eloquent about things they don’t be-

lieve. Honorable men would not do so. As the Chinese classics

teach, honorable men retire from public life rather than live a

life of falsehood and thievery. With one or two exceptions, none

of them will be allowe public office after the Fall.

Posted by Freyr at 12:57 AM on January 26


“Cockrum said Indiana is struggling, at least in part, because of the state’s strong conservative bent and a belief that information about sex should be taught by parents.”

Does Africa have a strong conservative bent too? Look at blacks anywhere in the world, and you’ll see they breed and procreate like mad, completely out of wedlock. Their males impregnate the females and then conveniently exit to repeat the process with another female someplace else. Black females are only partially able to care for their offspring and many die from neglect unless whites are there to pick up the slack. It’s always been this way with blacks since the dawn of time — in Indiana or not.

George Manuelian
San Jose, CA

Posted by George Manuelian at 2:32 AM on January 26


This is the result of the village raising kids, per HRC’s “It Takes a Village”, in the black community it is the village idiot, and they impregnate them, and our goverment rewards them with welfare and social services from the craddle to the grave.

Posted by tall one at 5:18 AM on January 26


The point here I think is that blacks in general don’t have any plan of living. They just go along in life being blown here and there with little consciousness. Every minute of the day is as if they just opened their eyes from a deep sleep and are bewildered at finding themselves wherever they happen to be.

They weren’t always this bad. There was a time when they weren’t like this. However, it’s now clear those years that they were near normal were an aberation and that the way they are now is their natural state.

At one time they did have a wonderful leader in Booker T. Washington. A fine man. Too bad that they finally rejected his precepts, or more likely, were unable to measure up. I definitely believe that if they had been able to follow his concept of living, we wouldn’t be going through what we are today. As things stand now, unfortunately, blacks are going to have to be dealt with harshly. Too bad, but they brought this state of affairs on themselves.

Tom Iron…

Posted by Tom Iron... at 7:44 AM on January 26


Come on man. Marriage is a white system. Anything white gotta go and you know that. White is a non-color. White ropes for nooses, white crosses for burning, white robes, white knights, white snow, white Christmas espec those who dream of it, white Jesus, white crackers, white rice, white rule, white White House, white America, white world. All thats gotta change to non-white using whitey female as a tool to get impregnated and get those good genes but the offspring still be 100% black or African American labeled.
Never mention the fact that Obama poster child had a white mother and thats why he appears intelligent and not ebonic like Jesse or Al.

Posted by at 8:02 AM on January 26


As an Englishman, I had to ‘google’ HOOSIER for a definition of the word. This research was a hoot and far more entertaining than reading about the breeding habits of black africans, of which much has already been written on AMREN and elsewhere and will no doubt be writ in times to come. I see that the zimbabwe inflation rate has now reached 100,000 percent and that presidential elections are called for in March 2008. Well, that should solve everything over there in black africa and perhaps black africans living in White countries such as UK, USA, NZ, Canada, Australia etc etc et al should stop bitching, whining, complaining and generally being a complete pain in the arse and thank us for funding these ‘welfare’ scams, as scams they surely are. Breed and collect benefit. What a load of utter tosh!

Posted by Yorkshireman at 8:14 AM on January 26


Right there on the chart is the explanation for the crime rampant in the black community. No fathers. Mothers who don’t care.
Until the black community admits that its problems are of their own doing, there is no hope for solving them.

Liberals who blame others are making the situation worse.

Posted by "Sharia-compliant" at 8:33 AM on January 26


Didn’t some Black “leader” once state that the way to defeat the White man was to out reproduce him? That method seems to be working well and the ironic part is we are unwillingly complicit in our own destruction because we are forced to subsidize their unfettered copulation. We work, we pay taxes, we “responsibly limit the size of our families and they proliferate secure in the knowledge that the White devils are taking care of them.

Posted by at 9:30 AM on January 26


To “Sharia compliant” at 8:33 AM: “..the explanation for the crime rampant in the black community. No fathers. Mothers who don’t care.” And what would be the explanation for the lions killing other animals? No fathers? Mothers who don’t care? Or perhaps lions are genetically predisposed to kill?

Posted by alx at 10:30 AM on January 26


I think the most important thing is to educate the youth to understant the responsibility of having a baby boy or girl.

Posted by Nnett at 10:33 AM on January 26


I lived in Indiana for about a year and I took a trip with an acquaintance across the state. She pointed out to me when we reached a small city in the middle of the night a very large, brightly-lit structure…much larger than any factory. It was the Indiana State pen. This is what is going to absorb those many children, and their children, referred to above. Just simply more of the same…more enormous prisons. The USA will simply have to get used to the fact of having them. For the unincarcerated, the surveillance society will be shepherding us. The authoritarian personality will prosper as never before. The free middle - class will get squeezed out of existence, a cost we will pay for multiculturalism.

Posted by mark at 11:13 AM on January 26


I think perhaps the republicans have it right. keep the minimum wage outrageously low. Next we need to cut welfare benifits or limit them to so many years after which they have to renter the work force. let it become defacto slavery all over again.

I’m confused. there is a 60 month limit on receiving welfare right? what am i missing?

Posted by at 11:28 AM on January 26


I wonder? It’s been demonstrated that young Black males have 3-19 times more testosterone level than their White counterparts. And White males have about 20+ times more T-level than White females. So how much T-Level do Black females have? The obsolete T-levels of male Blacks has contributed to the most dangerous of them being incarcerated, etc. My guess is that Black females might have near levels of the T-level of White males? If so, combined with their overall low IQ, a plausible theory could made to explain their propensity to gangs, unwed motherhood, and so forth?

Posted by factualist at 11:43 AM on January 26


I thought americas first black president Bill Clinton signed a bill limiting welfare to 5 years. Guess like all laws that only applys to white people. Bill cosby told the blacks to straighten up.Oprah made her money in America but decided to build a school in Africa. Bill gates made his fortune in America but goes to other countries to give it away, except for the minority schloraships. It looks like everybody has given up on this country. For good reason. All thats really left is the fight over what to name it. United states of Atzlan, United states of Afmerica, or United states of Asia.

Posted by at 11:57 AM on January 26


Obama, while half white, is also not of the same African ethnic
origin as most American blacks, as his father is Luo, which I

believe is not a Bantu group.

It would be interesting to have IQ test results for the different
races with finer precision than Black, White, Asian, or even

nation. Kenya has several visibly different black races in it,

and of course they have stereotypes about each other. I’ve read

that the Luo are considered more intelligent, but lazy.

Posted by at 1:19 PM on January 26


Anonymous posters at 11:28 am and 11:57 am both asked about the supposed “Welfare Reform” enacted in 1996.

There’s actually news about that today.

The 1996 Welfare Reform Act has turned out to be an abject failure. Between the time when its provisions took effect and 9/11, SSI was the fastest-growing line item in the Federal budget. What this meant is that former AFDC recipients who would have received TANF switched over to SSI, based on the presumption (and probably the reality) that they and/or their children were crazy or retarded.

Now, for the relatively few TANF recipients left, one of its “reforms” has been weakened.

The Federal bureaucrats that run TANF, at the behest of most state governors, and under opposition of the Bush Administration, will now allow a year’s worth of college attendance to count toward TANF’s “work requirement,” and furthermore, there will be no more homework monitoring.

What will probably happen is that many TANF recipients will appear to register for classes at a junior college or technical school. Based on the fact that they have low incomes, Federal grants will pay the tuition. However, they won’t actually attend the classes, and since there’s no homework check anymore, they have no incentive to do so.

So combine that with the increased recipient rolls of SSI, and the 1996 Welfare Reform did nothing. In fact, the Federal government would probably be spending less without it.

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080126/ap_on_go_ot/welfare_rules;_ylt=A9G_R2_PTZtHTqsAdg2s0NUE

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 1:31 PM on January 26


Indiana IS a wonderfully conservative state. Folks I’ve known from there are down-to-Earth, respectful, and industrious.

If you could take half of Indy and stick it in Alabama and then drop Gary into Lake Michigan, Indiana would be a great place.

Come to think of it, if births to single African women are 8 of 10 in Indianapolis, what must they be in Gary?

For those of you who don’t know about the Hoosier state’s northwestern corner, Gary makes Camden, East St. Louis, and Compton look like garden spots. Sometimes I think that Gary is a “work” in progress in its drive to outdo Detroit. Like its aforementioned “sista” cities, Gary was a productive, civilized place to live and work just 45 years ago. RIP.

Posted by Annoyed In Illinois at 2:37 PM on January 26


Bill Cosby must be shocked and saddened at how dismally the three generations of blacks following his time in the sun have turned out.

Posted by at 2:44 PM on January 26


“factualist wrote: It’s been demonstrated that young Black males have 3-19 times more testosterone level than their White counterparts. “

You mean 3-19% not 3-19 times! 3-19 times normal levels are what you find in bodybuilders, with some hardcore idiots going above 30x normal levels. If you are interested, I suggest you procure a 5mg tablet of dianabol (around $0.20 or so) at your local black market dealer. Consumption of this will give you a day dose of testosterone which will rapidly disseminate troughout your body, temporarily giving you a testosterone level thats 5 times greater than normal. You will not rage nor have a constant boner. The source of black behaviour is not in their testosterone levels but in their brain structure, which is different from european or asian brain layouts. If it was just in their testosterone levels, it would be trivial to fix them, there are testosterone release inhibiting medicines available. I would say that the minimum fix includes a cybernetic axuillary brain, which is beyond current technology.

Posted by Information Insurgent at 3:12 PM on January 26


I can’t help but wonder how many of these bastard births are HIV+ crack babies? Africans just can’t stop spreading diseases, drug addition, trapping them in their self made hellish poverty while blaming white people. I don’t have children but if I were poor and living in a crime infested slum with failing schools my self control would never allow me to bring children into the picture without the benefit of a second parent.

Posted by at 3:36 PM on January 26


They gotta get that check. They think of their babies as dolls. They dress their toddlers in expensive, hip baby clothes. They don’t think about next week.

Posted by GAonMYmind at 7:54 PM on January 25

There was a rundown mall I used to pass through occasionally in an “urban” area. On the first floor, by the city bus depot, there was a store that exclusively sold overpriced hip-hop baby clothes and giant fake-gold earrings and necklaces. I used to call it “the baby mama store”, and it was always good for a laugh!

It was owned and run by Pakistani immigrants - I guess they looked around the neighborhood and saw what would sell. I wonder if the blacks who shopped there realized how foolish they looked to those store owners? Teenage dropout LaKisha spent her check on enormous trashy earrings and tracksuits for her illegitimate baby, while immigrants who showed up from 3rd world seeking opportunity made their fortunes off her ghetto spending habits. Talk about laughing all the way to the bank - no one “disrespects” ghetto blacks like hardworking immigrants.

Although I hate to see all the 3rd world immigration flowing into this country, I do enjoy watching blacks get shown up over and over by everyone who gets off the boat! And yet they still blame whitey with a straight face.

Posted by Jill at 3:55 PM on January 26


Where is the “Whites Overall” on this?

Posted by Bandmo at 7:58 PM on January 25

Good catch!! They wouldn’t dare show it. It would be WAY too embarrassing. They list the black illegitimacy rate and compare it to the black/hispanic/white/etc combined rate.

Actually it is higher, since many blacks feel common law marriage is the same as the real thing, while others are confused what the word marriage really is/means and a few lie about being married (being actually embarrassed about their out of wedlock children).

Posted by Sissy White at 9:01 PM on January 25

Hispanics often do this too - they call their longtime live-in boyfriend their “husband”. Most ghetto “fiance” relationships have no weddings plans in sight and neither party’s family pushes the issue; I guess that’s a common-law way of “going steady”.

Have you noticed that when some black thug gets killed the media sometimes interviews “his fiance” but NEVER “his wife”? Even mainstream media reporters would probably not report that someone was married when they clearly weren’t, but are fine with letting the old “fiance” slide. Funny how black thugs always get killed right before they were about to marry their baby mama.

I know very few young black women who have gotten married BEFORE having a baby. Although the national black illegitimacy rate is officially 68.8%, I’ll bet it’s at least 85% if you fact-checked using marriage records.

In fact, the only young black mothers I have met who were married before getting pregnant with their first child were Carribean or African immigrants.

Posted by at 4:30 PM on January 26


“The 1996 Welfare Reform Act has turned out to be an abject failure. Between the time when its provisions took effect and 9/11, SSI was the fastest-growing line item in the Federal budget.”

I had heard that too. That the people being kicked off welfare (making it look like welfare was being reduced) were put on put on welfare disability. Didn’t know for sure it was to SSI. Still, a lot of people DID return to work from welfare. Employers evem got a tax break for hiring people who were only getting food-stamps. And a lot of people believed the, ‘you can only get benefits for 1 year’, etc, line. They certainly told people that.

Posted by at 5:22 PM on January 26


This is the reason the term “Baby Daddy” exists among them. It’s not at all uncommmon for them to have multiple children by multiple men. There is no need to worry about it, when they know taxpayers will be standing by to provide for them and their brood.

Posted by at 5:27 PM on January 26


How many mothers of these abandoned black children are white?

Oh they loved the attention of the wonderful black male, he was so nice and they loved the jungle love (no white man ever satisfied them like that) but where is this Miracle African today? Why, he’s chasing another idiotic white woman.

Posted by LOGIC at 7:12 PM on January 26


“Annoyed in Illinois” is right about Gary,Ind. However it was a ROUGH place to be in the sixties and it had a high crime rate compared to the rest of Indiana. It has gotten even worse as it unwinds, as is Detroit.

Posted by icemann at 8:07 PM on January 26


Thanks for the correction Info Insurgent. The issue is discussed below as a confirmation of the T-level/prostate cancer link.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741?dopt=Citation

I understand that testosterone released only at critical periods such as during the fetal or adolescent stages makes all the difference to later behavior, otherwise as you state there’s not the effect. Given to female mice and deprived of males, it resulted in them “mounting” each other in reverse!

https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Sex-Difference-Between-Women/dp/0385311834


Posted by factualist at 9:35 PM on January 26


> Still, a lot of people DID return to work from welfare.

Many to government make-work jobs.

Posted by at 10:04 PM on January 26


Jill:

Isn’t it interesting that even in the ghetto there is money to be made and business opportunities. Even here though blacks fail to achieve. I recall watching some part of a Spike Lee movie once (I forget the name). There was a scene where some Korean immigrants are in a run-down black neighbourhood and are looking at some corner real estate. Anyways a group of black men are standing around sullenly and making derogatory comments about them “those Koreans will probably be running the place and owning the stores there in a few years” etc. They are rueing the predicted future success of the Asians. I kept thinking to myself, well you idiots why not beat them to the punch? You guys were born in the U.S. speak English and have the home team advantage. Why not open the stores yourselves? Why let Koreans benefit from the economic activity of your own community? But the blacks just kept standing there. Talking, but doing nothing. Nothing points to the pathology of black failure like the success of other non-White groups. When blacks can’t even be successful business people serving other blacks in their own black areas that is really saying a lot.

Posted by at 1:01 AM on January 27


And more and more of the illegitimate births to WHITE girls are being fathered by BLACK MALES also. Of course, those who don’t end up being murdered by their ghetto “prizes” first:
https://www.kmbc.com/news/15131820/detail.html

Another white girl (Olivia Jackson, and pregnant) murdered by her black boyfriend (Sedale Fox, the father of her unborn child), in Leavenworth KS. The black killer’s myspace pays homage to his gansta’ idol Tupoc, and “Thug’s Life”, with the slogan “Only the strong survive”. I guess the dopey white girl was really enamored with this. This follows the white girl in Tyler TX just murdered (and then cannibalized) by HER black boyfriend. And we all remember the white woman in Canton OH pregnant with her second illegitimate child of a black male, Bobby Cutts, who murdered her. How many other cases have we just not heard about. The media is normally very careful to never show the photo of the victim and the killer in the same news story. It would be very interesting to see a study on the percentage of white females whose boyfriends are black (8%???) compared to the percentage of MURDERED white females who were killed by BLACK boyfriends (50%???). What these ding-a-ling white girls who associate with black males are too stupid to realize is that not only do they face a wildly increased risk of AIDs and a host of other incurable STDs that are RAMPANT among black males, but they face a wildly increased risk of being murdered too.

Posted by at 1:06 AM on January 27


Fertility rates aare actually HIGHEST among latinos. (not blacks)

“Some of the increase is explained by immigration. Hispanics have the highest fertility rate — about 2.9 — followed by blacks (2.1), Asians (1.9) and whites (1.86). But Hispanics do not represent enough of the population to fully explain the trend, and the fertility rate of U.S. whites is still higher than that of other developed countries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/20/AR2007122002725_pf.html


U.S. Fertility Rate Hits 35-Year High, Stabilizing Population

By Rob Stein
Washington Post Staff Writer

Friday, December 21, 2007; A11

For the first time in 35 years, the U.S. fertility rate has climbed high enough to sustain a stable population, solidifying the nation’s unique status among industrialized countries.

The overall fertility rate increased 2 percent between 2005 and 2006, nudging the average number of babies being born to each woman to 2.1, according to the latest federal statistics. That marks the first time since 1971 that the rate has reached a crucial benchmark of population growth: the ability of each generation to replace itself.


Posted by knittingbasket at 9:11 AM on January 27


A Younger Latino Population and Continued High Fertility Translate Into More Births

https://www.prb.org/Articles/2006/LatinoBirthsIncreaseinNontraditionalDestinationStates.aspx

Posted by knittingbasket at 9:14 AM on January 27


When blacks can’t even be successful business people serving other blacks in their own black areas that is really saying a lot.

Perhaps what it is saying the most is that we really should consider cutting off welfare to blacks. The money to spend in the Korean grocery did not come to the blacks working a job and earning a paycheck. There is a word for this situation….socialism. Every single time socialism has become the economic system, the nation that used it, collapsed. The US is not immune to this. Also, democracy and capitalism are the rule of law here, not socialism. We need to reign this problem in.

Posted by at 11:31 AM on January 27


I’d heard about the black-induced collapse of Gary, Ind.; now others here have confirmed it. A real-life Prof. Harold Hill would be turning in his grave. No doubt the blacks would long ago have burned the “Gary Conservatory” to the ground.

I don’t know which is more bizarre: a) a sociopathic race with a 70% (or higher) illegitimacy rate having the gall to demand inclusion into polite society, or b) polite society being so stupid and/or spineless as to cave in to that demand.

Posted by Strider at 12:11 PM on January 27



Previous poster said:

“a Spike Lee movie once (I forget the name). There was a scene where some Korean immigrants are in a run-down black neighbourhood and are looking at some corner real estate. Anyways a group of black men are standing around sullenly and making derogatory comments about them “those Koreans will probably be running the place and owning the stores there in a few years” etc.”


The movie is “Do the Right Thing” (1989). To be fair, one of the black men in that discussion does ask: “Well how come we blacks don’t do this ourselves, open our own stores? What’s wrong with us?”

If I recall, none of them really has an answer for that. So the question is left unresolved, and they go back to playing dominoes.

Posted by Right-Wing Rocker at 1:18 PM on January 27


The only way to reduce the illegitimacy rate is to drastically cut the welfare state. The problem is far too many white liberals would cry “cutting welfare is cruel to the children”. Actually black boys born to unwed mothers are statistically so likely to become criminals that we should have tiny handcuffs ready for them from the second they are born. I would also tie the tubes of any single mother who even applies for welfare.

My ideas might seem extreme to some. But doing nothing will just give us more of the same.

Posted by Jay at 3:41 PM on January 27


Posted by Sissy White
Actually it is higher, since many blacks feel common law marriage is the same as the real thing, while others are confused what the word marriage really is/means and a few lie about being married (being actually embarrassed about their out of wedlock children).


Marriage may provide a stable structure for some people, but it is unnecessary for others. Marriage is not a requirement for functional families.


Posted by AtheistNonracistWhiteAmerican at 4:50 PM on January 27


White Americans are not having many babies, but blacks and hispanics are, and expecting White labor and taxes to pay for them.

I guess we’re the slaves now.

Posted by Citizen at 5:10 PM on January 27


And this is news on what planet?
One poster made the point - “Bill Cosby must be shocked and saddened at how dismally the three generations of blacks following his time in the sun have turned out.”

I don’t know about the rest of you, but when I was a kid, Cos was very popular, and his success came through a lot of hard work in college academics, sports, and entertainment . This was the choice he made; unfortunately, not too many blacks seem to makepositive life choices.

I still remember many of his stories, and a recurring theme is the fact that he obviously had a DAD around that cared enough to stay around and straightened him and his brother out when needed.

This is obviously what is missing in black society; any sort of positive role models.

Posted by Superman at 6:14 PM on January 27


Blacks are a failed race. They know that their only hope for survival comes from grafting themselves (socially, economically and genetically) to the white race, which is why they constantly bleat “racist” and “racism”, while moving constantly closer and closer to whites, in every conceivable way, no matter how far away whites try to move, and no matter how impotently “racist” whites manage to be.

If whites were truly so evil and racist, blacks would be running THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, as hard and as fast as they possibly can. Instead they keep lobbying, in every conceivable way, for more handouts from, and integration and race mixing with, white people.

It’s because they know that, without it, their race is destined for the ash heap of history, and they would prefer to drag us down into the jungles with them, rather than just admit defeat and bow gracefully out of the evolutionary race.

At this time, the subconscious, animalistic survival instinct of the black race is much stronger than their social conformity instinct, and now that the pressure from “racist” white america for the latter has been neutered, we see the former in all it’s grasping, bug-eyed, bare-fanged, detrousered ignominy.

Until the noble, upward advancement instinct of the white race overpowers the animalistic survival instinct of the non-whites and their false white guilt trip weapon, the white race will continue to be dragged down into an evolutionary, economic and technological quagmire.

Posted by Citizen at 7:00 PM on January 27


We Whites are partly to blame because we tax ourselves to provide welfare for non-Whites. Limited social welfare in the form of a temporary safety net for our people seems desirable but can only work if it rigorously excludes non-Whites.

Posted by Dave Renton at 7:33 PM on January 27


To Spengler-Societal values, no-fault divorce and the Sexual Revolution actually do have something to do with this-all of these phenomena were milestones in the development of “Liberalism” in America, and this is simply more proof of liberalism’s pernicious effects on society. In 1950, the black illegitimacy rate was 22%, while the white rate was 1.5%. In 1990, these rates had exploded to 25% for whites, and 70% for blacks. The cultural marxists must be very proud!

Posted by Blowtorch Mason at 7:36 PM on January 27


Blacks have never had the internal compass or ability to defer gratification that whites do: nevertheless, blacks were doing a lot better 50 years ago than today. Their trends were improving then, whereas today they are getting worse.

Blacks need discipline and structure, when that is provided, they can live decent lives for the most part. They are only weakly capable if at all of providing this structure for themselves.

Posted by at 9:48 PM on January 27


All you folks are so ignorant. The difference is not whites vs. blacks. The difference is class. Ever hear the phrase “white trash?” Those white girls getting murdered by their black boyfriends are “trailer trash,” in the exact same league as their black boyfriends. Stop raising them to some imaginary higher status just because they happen to be white. Welfare and unwed pregnancy are as rampant among “white trash” as among lower class blacks. Amazing the way whites conveniently ignore the lowest of their own race in favor of criticizing other races.

Posted by at 1:56 AM on January 28


In any other world, these telling statistics would be a wakeup call, but in America we reward this behavior by giving them a larger share of the American pie, until we elect politicans who truthfully confront these type problems and attempt to fix them, these statistics are only going to climb.

Posted by tall one at 5:18 AM on January 28


“Still, a lot of people DID return to work from welfare. Employers evem got a tax break for hiring people who were only getting food-stamps.”
Posted by at 5:22 PM


I well remember that, having seen it. Many of them were undiciplined, unpunctual, quarrelsome, couldn’t take orders, had no work ethic, thought they could do whatever they pleased, didn’t respect rules, and did very little work. What little work they did do, was often so terrible, it had to be done over - by somebody else.

Therefore, puttling them “to work” was only an illusion, because a lot of them proved to be useless. They were a drag on the organization, and they knew they couldn’t be fired.

Moving them off Welfare was just shifting the burden to somewhere else.

Posted by at 5:27 AM on January 28


Although no one can deny that illegitimacy rates for whites have been rising, I wonder how many of the illegitimate births are to white women with black fathers? If they existed, it would be interesting and informative to see these statistics From personal experience, I feel the numbers would be statistically significant.

Posted by Sardonicus at 8:33 AM on January 28


Marriage. It’s a white thing. You wouldn’t understand.

Posted by LOGIC at 9:58 AM on January 28


To Spengler-Societal values, no-fault divorce and the Sexual Revolution actually do have something to do with this-all of these phenomena were milestones in the development of “Liberalism” in America, and this is simply more proof of liberalism’s pernicious effects on society. In 1950, the black illegitimacy rate was 22%, while the white rate was 1.5%. In 1990, these rates had exploded to 25% for whites, and 70% for blacks. The cultural marxists must be very proud!

Posted by Blowtorch Mason at 7:36 PM on January 27

I think there is no doubt that the “Sexual Revolution” (which has been promoted by the MSM and entertainment industry) has hit the black community harder than it has the white community. The reason is simple: blacks are much more gullible and susceptible to indoctrination than whites. This is why almost every commercial you see today has a “hip hop” theme and is directed towards blacks. It is not that these companies are trying to alienate white comsumers or think that blacks make up the majority of the purchasers of their products, rather they recognize that these ads will have a marginal effect on white consumers and have a huge impact on getting black consumers to buy their products. For these same reasons, blacks seem to have a hard time differentiating between pretend and reality. They simply mimick what they see on t.v. and this includes the Sexual Revolution.

Posted by Conrad R. at 10:21 AM on January 28


I think illegitimacy rates have more to do with the behavior of men than with the behavior of women. As many posters have pointed out, many of the babies born to unwed white mothers probably have black fathers. Let’s be honest, premarital sex is the norm amongst both blacks and whites and accidents do happen. The difference is, when a black man gets a woman pregnant, his first impulse is to run. When a white man gets a woman pregnant, his first impulse is to start a family. This is not to say that all black men do the wrong thing or that all white men do the right thing. This is simply what I have observed in my life. Many of my friends and family members have gotten girls pregnant and all of them married these girls either before or shortly after they had the baby. On the other hand, virtually every black man I have ever worked with had multiple children with multiple women and thought nothing of. It seems that black men view their children as conquests or burdens whereas white men view their children as a part of themselves that they have a duty to take care of.

Posted by at 10:28 AM on January 28


“Welfare and unwed pregnancy are as rampant among “white trash” as among lower class blacks.”

This exemplified the central error in your post. Blacks are several times likelier to be on welfare than whites. The white illegitimacy rate is about 25%, the black rate hovers around 70%. Blacks commit violent crimes at ten times the white rate. Control for economics, and blacks are still far more violent and welfare-dependent than whites. Race correlates with social pathologies much more strongly than does any economic factor. Before hauling out tired, ad hominem acccusations of “ignorance” you’d be well advised to master a few basics of statistics.

Posted by Cassiodorus at 10:48 AM on January 28


I well remember that, having seen it. Many of them were undiciplined, unpunctual, quarrelsome, couldn’t take orders, had no work ethic, thought they could do whatever they pleased, didn’t respect rules, and did very little work. What little work they did do, was often so terrible, it had to be done over - by somebody else.

I had an acquaintance who did time in prison and encountered these welfare to work types who’d been put to work as prison guards. He could tell you some stories.

I’ve also seen it myself. I’ve worked in some very diverse workplaces with tons of Asians, Hispanics and Eastern European immigrants and the only ones who just can’t seem to get along are the Blacks. They seem to have an especially strong hatred for Asians and Hispanics, especially when one is in a position of authority over them. I don’t know why this is, but I’m sure AR readers will speculate.

Posted by at 12:13 PM on January 28


“All you folks are so ignorant.”

So, 80 percent of black children are born outside of marriage and it’s the fault of a racist and ignorant white society?

Well, it may be true we are ignorant. I feel that way myself sometimes, after reading the comments, that we can sound pretty racist and ignorant. I must ask, tho, regarding our terrible and racist comments: without criticizing a culture how can one expect to see changes? Let alone, 35 years of change.

Posted by LHathaway at 1:39 PM on January 28


“Tanasha Anders, acting president and chief executive of Indiana Black Expo, said the problem comes down to education — making sure young people finish school and understand the consequences of having a baby.”

Given the way Mexican illegals have driven down semiskilled and entry level wages, often the best way for a girl to earn a living is to have a couple kids where she can get on welfare.

Welfare reform means that after five years of county welfare she will have to do a lot of Dr. shopping and hire one of those taxpayer paid SSI attorneys to get herself and the kids on SSI which goes on forever. The food stamps, section 8 and free medicalcare aren’t cut off after five years, only the TANF cash payment.

Another benefit of life long welfare and SSI is that one is never laid off, never outsourced and your job is not given to illegal Mexicans. The combined SSI and other benefits adds up to an earned income of about $25,000 per year, which is more than most of these girls will be able to earn.

The real way to get Americans off welfare is to send all the illegals home and stop bringing legal immigrants. This will cause upward pressure on wages and low skilled Americans will be able to support themselves and their kids.

Posted by at 1:47 PM on January 28


Blacks show appreciation to the Democrat party’s destruction of the black family by consistently voting at a rate of 90 percent for the party.

Posted by Mark at 3:38 PM on January 28


Re: “Posted by at 1:56 AM on January 28”


“All you folks are so ignorant.”

Ad hominem from the start! Don’t they instruct students in school anymore about valid arguments?

“The difference is not whites vs. blacks. The difference is class.”

What’s the solution then? Destruction of all classes and castes? It was attempted — stupidly so — and it failed.

“Ever hear the phrase “white trash?” Those white girls getting murdered by their black boyfriends are “trailer trash,” in the exact same league as their black boyfriends. Stop raising them to some imaginary higher status just because they happen to be white. Welfare and unwed pregnancy are as rampant among “white trash” as among lower class blacks.”

This plays into the “poverty breeds criminality and dissolution” pap. I would know, since I was reared in a trailer from infancy to childhood. Only to a LIMIT is it true, and it sounds good; but being poor does not render anyone an animal by decree. I’d find the statistics on this for you, but I’m a little too tired, so I’ll leave it up to you to research and revamp.

“Amazing the way whites conveniently ignore the lowest of their own race in favor of criticizing other races.”

The lowest of our race are the ones who voluntarily attempt to destroy it, not those caught in the grind 50 hours a week, nor those who are even a bit obtuse.


Posted by Guillaume at 4:36 PM on January 28


Those white girls getting murdered by their black boyfriends are “trailer trash,” in the exact same league as their black boyfriends.
Posted by at 1:56 AM on January 28

The brainwashed idiotic white girls who have been fooled into marrying blacks seem to come from all levels. Nicole Simpson white trash? Hardly. It’s more than “class”. Low class whites commit murder at levels far, far below that of blacks, including wealthy blacks.

Posted by Be honest at 6:45 PM on January 28


No child born out of wedlock should receive child support from the government. The child support must come from the father of the child. With DNA testing this has been possible for a long time. We are permitting these lowlife black racist people to enslave us and even kill us by permitting them to have children out of wedlock. First, in many cases the white people are enslaved by having to work to pay for the black racist women’s child. Second, the child grows up and commits violent acts against non-black people. This is a double crime. Fight for your rights by any means necessary.

Posted by Elrey Jones at 11:43 PM on January 28


1:56 AM POSTER:

“Welfare and unwed pregnancy are as rampant among “white trash” as among lower-class blacks”,,,,,

Wow! Can you ever misrepresent an issue. The REAL POINT would be to look to the proportional differences between the two races. What is the TOTAL PERCENTAGES of Whites on welfare compared to blacks? What is the TOTAL PERCENTAGE of White illegitimate births compared to those for blacks? You should be a magician with your smoke and mirrors routine.

Posted by at 12:43 AM on January 29


To the poster who said, it’s not class as it is race (the reason for the higher out-of-wedlock birthrates) you are correct. Here’s an actual flesh and blood illustration, that it’s different racial behaviors.

Calvin Murphy of the Houston Rockets earned millions of dollars playing basketball. During his long career, he fathered a total of 13 children by nine different women. How does welfare explain that?
Murphy went to Niagara University, so you can’t say it was a lack of education.

Then, there’s Michael Vick and his dogfighting operations, but that’s a post for another time.

Posted by Soprano Fan at 12:28 PM on February 2



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