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Greg Toppo, USA TODAY, February 5, 2008

Here’s a quiz: Get a pencil and paper and jot down the 10 most famous Americans in history. No presidents or first ladies allowed.

Who tops your list?

Ask teenagers, and they overwhelmingly choose African-Americans and women, a study shows. It suggests that the “cultural curriculum” that most kids — and by extension, their parents — experience in school increasingly emphasizes the stories of Americans who are not necessarily dead, white or male.

Researchers gave blank paper and pencils to a diverse group of 2,000 high school juniors and seniors in all 50 states and told them: “Starting from Columbus to the present day, jot down the names of the most famous Americans in history.”

Topping the list: the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks and Harriet Tubman. Three of the top five — and six of the top 10 — are women.

Sam Wineburg, the Stanford University education and history professor who led the study along with Chauncey Monte-Sano of the University of Maryland, says the prominence of black Americans signals “a profound change” in how we see history.

“Over the course of about 44 years, we’ve had a revolution in the people who we come to think about to represent the American story,” Wineburg says.

“There’s a kind of shift going on, from the narrative of the founders, which is the national mythic narrative, to the narrative of expanding rights,” he says.

{snip}

“I sometimes ask students to imagine themselves in a classroom 500 years from now. What will their teacher say about the 20th century? What were its lasting accomplishments? Of course, we don’t know where future historians will focus, but I’m guessing that the civil rights movement and the incredible scientific achievements will be the big stories.”

For what it’s worth, when the researchers polled 2,000 adults in a different survey, their lists were nearly identical. To Wineburg, that shows that what’s studied in school affects not just children but the adults who help them with their schoolwork.

The study acknowledges that the emphasis on African-American figures by the schools leaves behind not only 18th- and 19th-century figures but others as well, such as Hispanic icon Cesar Chavez, Native American heroes such as Pocahontas and Sacagawea and labor leaders such as Samuel Gompers and Eugene V. Debs.

{snip}

Who Are Most Famous in American History?

Asked to name the most famous Americans in history, high school students put 20th-century black Americans in the top three slots. Here are the top 10, with the percentage who chose each:

1. Martin Luther King Jr.: 67%

2. Rosa Parks: 60%

3. Harriet Tubman: 44%

4. Susan B. Anthony: 34%

5. Benjamin Franklin: 29%

6. Amelia Earhart: 25%

7. Oprah Winfrey: 22%

8. Marilyn Monroe: 19%

9. Thomas Edison: 18%

10. Albert Einstein: 16%

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(Posted on February 5, 2008)

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I won’t denigrate anyone their real achievements, but Rosa Parks and Harriet Tubman are just utterly worthless people.

Posted by onetwothree at 6:17 PM on February 5


This is one of the very reasons Ron Paul wants to abolish the Department of Education. What an outrage that two verifiable Marxists (MLK and Rosa Parks) would be named over Ben Franklin and Thomas Edison. And truly great Americans were not even mentioned much less replaced with the likes of pop talk show hostess Oprah Winfrey. This is the sad but predictable result of the relentless brainwashing of American kids plus the failure of parents to take and active role in making sure the brainwashing never takes hold. A dismal failure on the part of American parents.

Posted by P Norman at 6:28 PM on February 5


I was driving a `71 Chevy pickup with an “iffy” alternator across West Texas in the dead of night a few years back. Out of the darkness loomed a simple green sign that said the next town and gas was 116 miles further on. In the dark, lit only by the dim glow of dashboard gauges it hit me. “Oh God,” I said, half in prayer and half in new found appreciation, “I`m Fu*&!%g Lindbergh!” Everyone else is just another politician or General playing at war with other peoples lives in my book. That`s my vote…

Posted by Tim Mc Hugh at 6:34 PM on February 5


What on Earth are they teaching these kids? I thought it was bad when I was in school.

Posted by Ben D. at 6:40 PM on February 5


Of course, when you consider that about half of all high school students are black or hispanic, this isn’t that surprising. However, I find it strange that students weren’t allowed to name Presidents. If they were I’m sure that George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Thomas Jefferson would be high on the list. Also, this survey asked students to name “the most famous” Americans, not the Americans they most admire. I hate to admit it but I would probably have named Martin Luther King as well, considering he is constantly shoved down our throats and has his own holiday. Kids aren’t as dumb as you may think they are; they usually know when something is being forced upon them. I went through public school indoctrination and I turned out alright.

Posted by Conrad R. at 6:44 PM on February 5


Oh sweet Jesus, how can these poor kids stand a fighting chance in the real world when this is what they are taught?

Posted by cartman at 6:50 PM on February 5


This reads like war propaganda. Martin Luther King Jr.,Rosa Parks,Harriet Tubman Black history month and then no history year. So we’re all PC and good little indoctrinated students.

Posted by at 6:51 PM on February 5


Do the commie-culturalists not have any shame? I mean, how could they do this to children?

Posted by Arthur de Gobineau at 6:53 PM on February 5


Well, when you shove it down the throats of students daily, it’s no wonder…

Posted by Guillaume at 6:56 PM on February 5


“…to a diverse group of 2,000 high school juniors and seniors in all 50 states…”

Who else would a ‘diverse’ group pick? Learning about the unmatched achievements of whites makes ‘diverse’ students feel bad about themselves so they are shielded from real history and are given empty symbolism.

This is like going to auto mechanic school and only learning how to change the air freshener hanging from the mirror.

Posted by Civilized Neighbor at 6:58 PM on February 5


Before I say, with finality, “It’s over!” I would like to see the sample from which this survey is taken.

But it looks bad.

The media, and those who control it, have won. It took a long time, about 63 years, but it has happened — they have ruined this country; indeed they have deceived the whole of Christendom.

Posted by Gardener Ted at 7:01 PM on February 5


The only way to win our struggle is to get the children out of the government schools. It is also necessary to get those who are out away from the PC curriculum.

Posted by at 7:26 PM on February 5


This can’t be happening. If the above list is the result of public schooling, God help us.
The list should be similar to this one. Since Columbus, it should be, Columbus of course, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Lincoln, Edison, Wright Brothers, Ford, Neil Armstrong, Bill Gates and Ron Paul. Ok not Ron Paul. The guy that invented PVC piping.
All these people changed the course of history. Not a popularity contest from the MTV generation.

Posted by at 7:28 PM on February 5


Well I don’t know what MLK invented or what Oprah discovered but if they’d brain-stormed the students first (ie got them to use their brains) on America’s most important achievements and then asked them who was responsible (they’d have had to google, probably) then they’d have come up with America’s most important people. Modern day fame is more often than not a euphemism for novelty, and novelty does not stand the test of time.

Posted by at 7:30 PM on February 5


For all that, all the inventors on the list are White. :)

Posted by Ore at 7:34 PM on February 5


Considering the way the news media and the schools constantly attempt to ram blacks down our throats (from Kwanzaa through the end of Black History Month each year, it’s enough to make you gag), it’s not surprising the list these kids came up with. But notice: No great artists, great writers, great cinema auteurs — and certainly not Philo T. Farnsworth. He invented television. I suspect his invention, if not the man, will still be in use long after Martin Luther King’s memory has crumbled into dust.

Wasn’t the exclusion of presidents (and first ladies) from those eligible by the ones who developed the quiz just a clever ploy to keep the number of White males chosen down to a bare minimum? And isn’t it interesting that one of the only three chosen, Einstein, was actually not an American but a German Jew? But then, we couldn’t expect these kids to pick up on niceties like that — I believe he did emigrate to the U.S. while ostensibly fleeing Hitler — as they’ve been taught so carelessly.

By the way, if Oprah Winfrey deserves a place, why not Walt Disney?

Posted by Wayne Engle at 7:44 PM on February 5


Lewis and Clark, Neil Armstrong, Douglas MacArthur, or Babe Ruth didn’t make it? My, what a surprise…

Posted by Francis at 7:57 PM on February 5


This is small potatoes kiddies…10 years from now, the 10 most famous Americans will be…

1. Jesse Jackson, Secretary General of the United Nations
2. Johnny Cochran, United States Attorney General
3. Marion Barry, Director Drug Enforcement Agency
4. Al Sharpton, President of the United States
5. Morris Dees, former Chief Supreme Court Justice, now Grand Inquisitor of the International Tribunal for War and Thought Crimes
6. Minister Louis Farrakhan, Pope (for reconciling Islam, Christianity and Voodoo)
7. Hillary Clinton, President for Life of the Peoples Republic of (North) Korea
8. Oprah Winfrey, Nothing
9. Paris Hilton, a double Nobel Prize Winner for Photos and Videos
10. Rodney King, Director The Federal Bureau Of Investigation

Posted by Sissy White at 8:01 PM on February 5


This is small potatoes kiddies…10 years from now, the 10 most famous Americans will be…

1. Jesse Jackson, Secretary General of the United Nations
2. Johnny Cochran, United States Attorney General
3. Marion Barry, Director Drug Enforcement Agency
4. Al Sharpton, President of the United States
5. Morris Dees, former Chief Supreme Court Justice, now Grand Inquisitor of the International Tribunal for War and Thought Crimes
6. Minister Louis Farrakhan, Pope (for reconciling Islam, Christianity and Voodoo)
7. Hillary Clinton, President for Life of the Peoples Republic of (North) Korea
8. Oprah Winfrey, Nothing
9. Paris Hilton, a double Nobel Prize Winner for Photos and Videos
10. Rodney King, Director The Federal Bureau Of Investigation

Posted by Sissy White at 8:01 PM on February 5


Whoever controls the past controls the future…

Posted by sestamibi at 8:07 PM on February 5


>>What will their teacher say about the 20th century?

That is was more murderous than any century prior to it and that most of its victims were murdered in the name of equality & communism.

30+ M Russian
30+ M Chinese
etc.

Posted by at 8:16 PM on February 5


This article sounds like bull. Ive talked to many high school students and none of these would be on their list. My informal poll got
Armstrong
Patton
Oswald
and Dick Cheney..lol
This article sounds like USA Todays brainwashing attempt.
Steve

Posted by at 8:29 PM on February 5


Thomas Edison and Albert Einstein were black….

I’ve actually had college educated black people tell me that in all seriousness. Apparently this fact was suppressed from the general public so Whites could take credit for their accomplishments.

I’ve also been told a black man discovered electricity and Ben Franklin, a spectator to this historic event, took credit for that as well…

21st Century America. The mind boggles………

Posted by James at 8:34 PM on February 5


Let’s review the accomplishments of this august list.

1. Martin Luther King Jr.: 67%


2. Rosa Parks: 60%

3. Harriet Tubman: 44%

4. Susan B. Anthony: 34%

5. Benjamin Franklin: 29%

6. Amelia Earhart: 25%

7. Oprah Winfrey: 22%

8. Marilyn Monroe: 19%

9. Thomas Edison: 18%

10. Albert Einstein: 16%

Posted by Flamethrower at 8:54 PM on February 5


First of all, Columbus wasn’t an American. Second, the question asks who was the most famous, not who was the most significant.

Posted by at 8:57 PM on February 5


“… I sometimes ask students to imagine themselves in a classroom 500 years from now. What will their teacher say about the 20th century? What were its lasting accomplishments?”
___

I know what will be said; it will be something in par to the Arabs and Blacks who think their people built the Pyramids, yet are unable to replicate this today.

https://www.white-history.com/

The United States of America will be known as the once “Greatest Nation” that ever existed; a people who made it to the Moon, but now survive in squalor and live to a ripe old age of 30 years … if they are lucky.

It will never even occur to them that the people of the ancient “Great Nation” were not of their own blood, but were a race of White people, a people who had died off. It will also never be questioned as to why the new caretakers of this New 3rd World Nation are incapable of reproducing the same Great Nation of ancient.

~Rande

Posted by Rande at 9:06 PM on February 5


Anybody who comes on this board and laughs at the British for being suicidal, remember this list and what our country has come to. Not to mention, our country may be on the verge of nominating a moslem born third worlder for president. Whatever the British and Europeans have done, it pales in comparison to America’s path to national suicide.

Posted by Deporter at 9:11 PM on February 5


This may be the saddest article I’ve yet seen here at AR.

Posted by HH at 9:19 PM on February 5


Wow, no Robert Oppenheimer, Edward Teller, Linus Pauling, John Wayne, Elvis, Charles Limburgh, Bob Hope…

Posted by at 9:27 PM on February 5


We do have to remember that a lot of these people are the same ones who, when they’re adults, are going to struggle to understand job applications and figure out whether they have enough cash to buy what they want at the store (if cash still exists, that is).

Ironically, though, just prior to the recent holiday honoring America’s new “greatest” man, my high-school age niece confessed that she wasn’t sure who MLK was. I wasn’t sure whether to be appalled at that or jubilant that the schools’ PC propaganda apparently hadn’t gotten through to her. (Loving uncle that I am, I chose the latter.)

Posted by Jefferson Davis at 9:41 PM on February 5


Albert Einstein was an immigrant who made a huge bomb and dropped it on people.

But he is famous, yes …

Posted by Riley DeWiley at 9:46 PM on February 5


So pathetic, yet so predictable! When you insist on having afro-Americans teaching, preaching and leading this is what you get — more anti-White garbage and more afro symbolism greatness. So when is MLK being elevated to sainthood?

John from Arkansas

Posted by at 9:47 PM on February 5


Absolutely sickening left-wing revisionism .

After the shameful substitution of Washington Day and Lincoln Day with MLK Day (NOW the ONLY AMERICAN HONORED WITH A NATIONAL HOLIDAY BEARING A MAN’S NAME), what else would one expect of the brainwashed low-iq masses in our public schools?

Unbelievable more than sickening?, or the other way around?

Posted by from NOLA at 9:48 PM on February 5


No William Kuntsler, no Hillary Clinton, no Angela Davis, no Jane Fonda, no Janet Reno, no Stokely Carmichael, no Britanny Spears?? What’s the world coming to?

Posted by underdog at 9:50 PM on February 5


10. Rodney King, Director The Federal Bureau Of Investigation
Posted by Sissy White at 8:01 PM on February 5

That was brilliant, and a harbinger of the Orwellian future.

Posted by at 10:09 PM on February 5


Reagan? Liberated 300,000,000 people. I guess that doesn’t count because they were “only” White Europeans.

He also ended the Cold War with Soviet Communism. Instead of young folks going to bed today worrying about Russian missiles blowing their brains out, Reagan made it possible that they’d only be concerned whether BET was having a hip-hop special or not.

Posted by Annoyed In Illinois at 10:19 PM on February 5


I love stuff like this, that shows how sick America has become in black and white print. No need to explain this to lemmings, they get it right away.

Posted by Svigor at 10:21 PM on February 5


Pathetic and troubling, but ever so politically correct. I imagine that if Leonardo da Vinci and Charles Darwin had been Americans, they would have been overlooked. But in heaven’s name how does Marilyn Monroe rate a spot at No. 8, above Thomas Edison and Albert Einstein? For that matter, how does Monroe out class, say, Grace Kelly? I see that, for the entire era from 1492 to 1850, only one person (Ben Franklin) made the consensus list. “Who tops your list?” Hmmm. I lost interest after Appomattox, but here is my pre-1865 list: (1) Robert E. Lee, (2) Nathan Bedford Forrest, (3) John C. Calhoun, (4) Sam Houston, (5) Daniel Boone, (6) Simon Kenton, (7) Francisco Coronado and Hernando DeSoto (tie), (8) Lewis and Clark, (9) Sir William Johnson, (10) Edgar A. Poe. All dead white males, I’m afraid.

Posted by Petronius at 10:53 PM on February 5


Pretty soon we can lay claim to some of (long ago) Great Britain’s latest achievements:

25% Brits: Churchill A Myth, 58% Sherlock Holmes Real

https://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080204/od_afp/britainpeoplehistoryoffbeat

“Alarm as white working class boys fail to keep up with ethnic peers”

“White working-class boys are falling further behind all other groups at school, official figures have shown.

A devastating report from the Tories has already revealed them to be the worst-performing group at GCSEs, behind black and Asian youngsters from similar backgrounds.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=428494∈_page_id=1770

Posted by Voir Dire at 11:23 PM on February 5


“Starting from Columbus to the present day, jot down the names of the most famous Americans in history.”

This sentence demonstrates the idiocy of the people who came up with this. Columbus was not an American. He never even saw the any part of the USA in his life.

Posted by Old Soldier at 11:25 PM on February 5


And yet this is supposed to be such a racist, sexist society.

Let someone turn on a light and they can thank Thomas Edison. Let them use the telephone and they can thank Alexander Graham Bell. Let them call themselves an American and they can thank Thomas Jefferson. And the list goes on and on.

Which one of those black Americans that these teenagers name as being the “most influential” has done anything that affects the average person’s day-to-day life in any way whatsoever? The brainwashing has indeed been complete. And yet none of these teen agers wants to live in Detroit, Gary Indiana, or any of our other all-black cities.

Brainwashing can only go so far.

Posted by Tim in Indiana at 11:46 PM on February 5


“There’s a kind of shift going on, from the narrative of the founders, which is the national mythic narrative, to the narrative of expanding rights,” he says.

“National mythic narrative”. Sounds rather Stalinist doesn’t it.
IF we were going just for “famous” why did the kids neglect OJ Simpson, Wesley Cook (AKA Mumiya Abu Jamal), Angela Davis, Joanne Chesimard, Eldridge Cleaver and Stokley Carmichael?

Posted by at 12:08 AM on February 6


After forty years of this edu-propaganda it’s no wonder that Hillary, Obama and McCain are now on top of the political heap.
This reminds me of the chapter “Why The Worst Get On Top” from F.A. Hayek’s “The Road To Serfdom.”

Posted by at 12:41 AM on February 6


Unbelieveable! They have amelia Earhart, who was a minor figure in aviation, but not the Wright Brother, or Glen Curtis, or Charles Lindberg, or Jimmy Doolittle who made major advances in the field. I note the lack of miltary figures. No US Grant, or Patton, MacArthur or even Audie Murphy. They did include Edison, but the kids probably think he is black. Important lefties are left out like Eugene debs and Clarance Darrow. I could go on.
Is history even taught anymore?

Posted by flyingtiger at 12:42 AM on February 6


The commenter who said “the question asks who was the most famous, not who was the most significant” has it right. Surprised Britney Spears, Eminem, and Madonna aren’t on the list.

This, unfortunately, is the natural consequence of teaching anti-American revisionist history. At least, that’s what I would say if I thought this list was legit. Frankly, it smells really fishy.

But let’s, for the sake of argument, say it’s for real. The quote “that shows that what’s studied in school affects not just children but the adults who help them with their schoolwork” is highly disingenuous. Being of that age group, I can tell you that, in California at least, this was the first wave of PC revisionism. The parents had already been indoctrinated… it has little to do with what their kids bring home.

Harriet Tubman… PUH-LEEZE!

Posted by David K at 1:20 AM on February 6


Future Historians will write about the incredibly rapid
and complete subversion of America; how its own Elite betrayed
their own people; how its politicians betrayed the trust they
swore to; how intellectuals were too dumb to see it or too cor-
rupt or frightened to speak out; and finally, how the media re-
fused its task of objectivity. Such Historians will marvel at
how educated Americans scorned those who tried to warn them cal-
ling them “racists” but how they refused to believe even the in-
vaders themselves-who by this point didn’t even try to hide their
intentions.
The great question is whether these future historians
will be White or Asian. Other peoples either don’t do history
at all or do it in a completely mythological way such as the
Muslims or Mexicans. There is a chance that Whites wont be
here at all.

Posted by Freyr at 1:42 AM on February 6


I recall several conversations I had with the family next door in Middle Tennessee. The two children were enrolled in jr. high school, near Murfreesboro. It was after Christmas and I was keen to know what was being taught about the Civil War in local public schools.

They had never heard of Robert E. Lee….or Stonewall Jackson….or Nathan Bedford Forrest. One said he heard of General Grant and Abe Lincoln, but they really did not spend much time on the Civil War….only about a day. Here we lived within sight of the Battle of Stones River and a few short minutes from the Battle of Franklin and these children had not been told such places ever existed.

This was 1981. I am sure the PC curriculum is even more selective now than it was then.

Just imagine the above list…..no Lincoln, no Washington, no presidents of any party.

Sir Thomas Carlyle said…..History is a fable, agreed upon.

Posted by Memphomaniac at 1:45 AM on February 6


What do you expect?
And look what is happening tonight across this land — our last, best hope for a decent nominee is being dashed because of religious bigotry and hispanics invading the republican caucuses. Both Hukabee and McCain are happy to give what’s left of America to the Mexicans and “Obama” and Hillary want to give it to the entire world.

Why oh why do white people and Republicans in particular keep shooting themselves not just in the foot, but in the face as well? WHY?

Posted by RobertB at 3:10 AM on February 6


As the above brother stated, most of public school ‘students’ are either black or hispanic. I see this on a daily basis: A class of children WITHOUT A WHITE FACE AMONG THEM and their WHITE 20 SOMETHING FEMALE TEACHER imparting on them the evils of Western Civilization. This all goes back to the revolution of the 60s. The only way to beat this is to not play their game and immigrate ( the west loves immigration right?) to a defensable nation free of femenism and socialism. New Zealand seems an excellent choice.

Posted by at 3:11 AM on February 6


If Mt. Rushmore were created today, the four faces would be:

Martin Luther King
Rosa Parks
Harriet Tubman
Susan B. Anthony

Posted by (•)▼(•) Nite Owl at 3:56 AM on February 6


Department of Education = “dep’t of marxism”. Communism won. All “regular” American people are, or act, shocked when this is uttered, yet all regular readers of these Amren news posts & comments know this to be true.

Posted by Cousin Charlie from TN at 5:16 AM on February 6


And isn’t it interesting that one of the only three chosen, Einstein, was actually not an American but a German Jew? But then, we couldn’t expect these kids to pick up on niceties like that — I believe he did emigrate to the U.S. while ostensibly fleeing Hitler — as they’ve been taught so carelessly.

Posted by Wayne Engle

Einstein became a naturalized citizen. Learn your history.

Posted by at 6:12 AM on February 6


The education system in America has slipped so low that worldwide it is not in the top 10, I think there are 3rd world countries rated higher, medical schools in Thailand are considered more advanced than their American counterparts. The anti-christ is in our midst, and it is the liberals.

Posted by abc at 6:24 AM on February 6


To the victors go the spoils and the right to rewrite history.
As time goes forward more and more history will be rewritten to emphasize the cruelty of the white male and the awesome contributions of blacks and other minorities. The lies will grow with each telling until everyone will believe that the white race is responsible for all evil in the world and blacks and Hispanics are all saviors.

Posted by at 6:56 AM on February 6


My list of the most famous and influencial.

Thomas Jefferson yes he was a president but he can’t be ignored.

Benjamin Franklin discovered significant theories regarding electricity.

Gregor Mendel father of Eugenics.

Wilbur and Orville Wright developed first flying prototype.

Howard Hughes industrialized flight and developed submarines.

The developer or pennicillim.

Robert Oppenheimer and the men of the Manhattan Project.

William Shockly developer of the transistor father of the microchip.

Werner Von Braun father of America’s space program.

James Watson discoverer of the DNA helix.

Posted by Tim Kennerly at 7:10 AM on February 6


“He invented television…” I remember watching a TV tribute to Bob Denver (Gilligan) when he died a few years ago. It showed him, white haired, at a public elementary school while an auditorium full of children sang his signature song in unison. Sitting there I blurted out to my friend, “Check it out! Gilligan is the new Chairman Mao!” And my friend shot back, ” No! He`s bigger than Mao! Gilligan is the new Sinbad! For the next ten thousand years, as long as mankind remembers how to excite an electron, they will be singing “Just sit right back and you`ll hear a tale…”

Posted by Tim Mc Hugh at 7:28 AM on February 6


Is it any wonder that Obama is sweeping the youth vote? Years of anti-white propaganda have finally borne fruit. Only an economic disaster can save us from gradual extinction.

Posted by Sardonicus at 7:54 AM on February 6


“…I’ve also been told a black man discovered electricity and Ben Franklin, a spectator to this historic event, took credit for that as well… “

It’s entirely plausible that Ben Franklin witnessed a black man flying a kite in a thunderstorm and was inspired by the consequences.

Posted by at 8:19 AM on February 6


Let’s see:

Rosa Parks sat immobile on a bus 50 years ago and she is one of our greatest American?

And yes more revered than the first man on the moon.

Posted by Dennis at 9:34 AM on February 6


As the dumbing down continues.

Posted by Trisket at 9:35 AM on February 6


James wrote:

I’ve also been told a black man discovered electricity and Ben Franklin, a spectator to this historic event, took credit for that as well…
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —

Heck, I’ve actually seen a number of black websites claiming a black man in Egypt “invented” electricity - completely ignoring the fact that electromagnetism is a naturally occuring phenomenon not subject to human invention. Evidence for this claim is based on faded drawings on the walls of a pyramid. We’re then told the Greeks “stole” the invention of electricity from this unnamed Egyptian black man and took credit for it. As for the likes of Gilbert, Volta, Ampere, Franklin, Joule, Orsted, Maxwell, Faraday? They’re conveniently dismissed as johnny-come-lately white “plagiarizers.”

To be honest, I truly feel sorry for young kids today. This listing of the most famous Americans shows what a confusing and twisted mess the liberal leftist lunatics in academia have wrought.

Posted by Francis at 9:40 AM on February 6


The only solution is home schooling.

Posted by SG at 9:43 AM on February 6


The reason for this pathetic view of who contemporary government school students believe are our so-called greatest Americans is simple: blacks and women run our government schools today. They are twisting the minds of the young and impressionable with communist doctrine wrapped around minority empowerment and served up like pigs in a blanket…

Posted by at 10:56 AM on February 6


Any teachers reading might like to enlighten their students in the importance of Edison. In fact, if Oprah’s online, perhaps she’d like to share with us the progress of her school in South Africa - in particular, how it’s doing without the Edison touch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecuWohB9DJA

Posted by at 11:37 AM on February 6


Martin Luther King more famous than Albert Einstein? The rot is irreversable.

Posted by at 11:44 AM on February 6


“He also ended the Cold War with Soviet Communism.”

No he didn’t.

And one quick look at this and other stories on this site clearly shows that communism has prevailed not just in America but everywhere else in the western world.

Posted by Danny at 12:23 PM on February 6



All government “schools” (that’s what they are called) are based on the idea that the child is state property, to be used for state purposes. In the year 1914, the US education department (yes, they had one then) raised the question- do the schools exist to serve the sla, er students, or do the students exist to serve the school? The answer was the latter.

The pledge of allegiance (to the Clintons) was written by a socialist flag salesman, Francis Bellamy (1892). Bellamy’s cousin, Edward, wrote Looking Backward around 1887. It was a look back from the year 2000, telling us of the glorious advances of socialism. This book had almost as much influence as the Communist Manifesto.

The hallmark of totalitarianism is force against mind- that is, government mind control centers, sold as “schools”. How did they manage to slip this by the Americans? Voting, as a substitute for real choice, which is contract.
“Free to choose” means free to elect how force will be used. Secondly, the “schools” were not to be viewed as coercive in the first place- if they had been, they would have been rejected.

Force was understood in terms of the truant officer, to save the kids from lunatic parents. Force was NEVER to be understood as being used against the general population…with some very notable exceptions, such as Little Rock and a few others.

A free people have really free schools- outside of the “man behind the curtain”- outside the state.

Posted by spy v. spy at 12:38 PM on February 6


Absolutely atrocious. This is more indoctrination of quasi-socialism (aka - “political correctness”) in the NEA controlled government “schools”. These manufactured “saints” of the Left take place over true heros like Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams & Dr.Ron Paul. This is a sad statement on the downward spiral of our society (by design).

https://www.jbs.org/
https://www.anu.org/

Posted by AmericanNationalist at 12:46 PM on February 6


If we privatized the schools, I’m afraid that would solve nothing. Black and Hispanic kids would still learn the same nonsense, albeit from privately-run multiculturalist “charter” and “choice” schools. Institutional arrangements cannot undo the anti-white will to power.

History is always written by the victors — and the victors are not white. To change that, we need to make history ourselves.

Posted by truth seeker at 1:17 PM on February 6


Here’s my top three important figures…

1. Any of the WHITE MALE Founding Fathers
2. Any of the WHITE MALE Revolutionary War veterans
3. Commander George Lincoln Rockwell

Posted by Seamus at 2:30 PM on February 6


My daughter’s school is 75% white. And for weeks now they’ve been drilling MLK into her classes. Columbus, Washington & Lincolon got ONLY 1-2 days each.

They try to make MLK and the slave issue and segragation seem like it encompasses the whole of American history. I explained to my daughter, “You see that field of grass?” “MLK and segragation amount to about one blade of grass in that field when it comes to the history of America just one tiny thing. And it was whites who eventually ended segragation, MLK never could have done it himself.”

Teach your children, explain the propaganda to them.

Posted by Reality Check at 2:31 PM on February 6


A healthy race, a sovereign race, fights to maintain its power within a society, both in terms of its percentage and its power within the power structure.

How the history of a country is written is a sign of the degree of sovereignty a race has.

Posted by at 2:47 PM on February 6


Temple U. gets anonymous $5 million gift in the mail

Last updated: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 7:47 PM EST

One envelope contained a $1 million bank check for the university to use however it chooses, Sullivan told The Associoated Press on Tuesday. The second held a $4 million check to endow a scholarship for women and minorities.

Maybe a better way to say it, would be scholarships for everyone EXCEPT white males.

Posted by at 4:18 PM on February 6


“New Zealand seems an excellent choice.”

No - in “History” for 5th Form (16-17 year olds), the subjects were:
* “Search for Security” (New Zealand).
* “Origins of World War 2”
* “Civil Rights in the U.S.”

I only wish I knew the truth about MLK then!

“Heck, I’ve actually seen a number of black websites claiming a black man in Egypt “invented” electricity”

Francis, I’ve also heard that the “black Dravidians” (southern Indians) had an “advanced civilisation”, but the “white Aryan barbarian” invaders - like the white colonials - used magic to destroy it, as not a single “black (pseudo)historian” I know can explain why barbarian whites could conquer such advanced black civilisations.

Posted by Obscuratus at 4:25 PM on February 6


Well, lying to our children isn’t going to change reality. I was lied to when growing up but just couldn’t reconcile it with reality. Everyone I knew did not like being around blacks even if they mouthed platitudes.

I did my own research as well as learning from experience. I hope the kids will do the same as they grow up.

Posted by Violet at 4:36 PM on February 6


These people have no past.

They have a very uncertain, illogical, unpredictable (to them) now, where “things” happen to them for which they are in no way responsible.

These people have no future.

Posted by at 4:43 PM on February 6


Now this seems to prove that the only way for any child in this country to get a GOOD EDUCATION…IS TO BE HOME SCHOOLED…public schools are totally brain washing young minds!!

Posted by lydia at 5:12 PM on February 6


It’s interesting that even the black entertainers from only 20 or 30 years ago also didn’t make the list. People like Michael Jackson and Muhammad Ali might actually be in the top ten of famous americans. The kids of today don’t seem to know history at all.

Posted by at 6:37 PM on February 6


“The commenter who said “the question asks who was the most famous, not who was the most significant” has it right.”
— — -
I’m not sure many of them can make a distinction between “fame” and “significance.”

Posted by Jane T. at 9:00 PM on February 6


Oh but the white males who developed vaccines, antibiotics, hybridized crops (saving hundreds of millions, even billions, of lives), they don’t count.
The white males who developed the machinery that does 95% of the labor in the world (tractors, trucks, trains, planes, bulldozers, backhoes, automation, …), they don’t count.
The white males who developed modern electronics (transistors, integrated circuits, computers, telephones,…), they don’t count.
The white males who developed modern materials (plastics, steel, nylon, synthetic rubber,..), they don’t count.
Yea, these kids are really receiving an “education” alright. About as accurate and balanced a portrayal of reality and history as kids are getting going to school in North Korea.

Posted by at 9:12 PM on February 6


There is absolutely no telling what is being taught in schools these days, particularly in inner-city schools. I had a black history professor in college who taught us, with all seriousness, that both the ancient Egyptians and the ancient Greeks were black. And this guy wasn’t some crackpot adjunct faculty, he was the department chair and a respected academic.

Posted by Conrad R. at 9:42 PM on February 6


Albert Einstein was an immigrant who made a huge bomb and dropped it on people.

Einstein was an immigrant to be sure, and he did his best work before he arrived in the United States. But he didn’t build any huge bomb. He did not work at Los Alamos, Hartford, or Oak Ridge, and his sole role in the bomb project was to sign the letter to Roosevelt to get him to start it. (Einstein was chosen as the signatory because, of course, he was the most famous scientist of his day.) Einstein had no interest in doing weapons work.

One problem with that survey is that it asked who are the most famous Americans, not who should be. Where is James Watson? How about Rudolph A. Marcus, a naturalized American (born in Canada) who worked out the electron transport chain used in photosynthesis? Somehow I think that’s more important than taking a seat on a bus. How about William Shockley, who led the group that invented the point contact transistor? He of course became a non-person after he came out as a race realist, concerned about the dysgenic trends in his country. Then there’s George Harry Heilmeier, who developed the first liquid crystal displays, the descendants of which are on everybody’s laptop. Well, I could go on. Most Americans are taught nothing about who made the important scientific discoveries and inventions of the modern era, which gives legs to all those black invention myths.

Posted by WR the elder at 10:04 PM on February 6


Many of the posters above confused “most famous” with “most deserving” — the quiz addressed only “most famous”. Anyway, for what it’s worth, I did the quiz — which should be done quickly and without thinking too much about it — and came up with Thomas Edison, the Wright Brothers, Elvis, Robert E. Lee, Ernest Hemingway, Edgar Allen Poe, Marlon Brando, Neil Armstrong, Bill Gates, Henry Ford, and yes, Martin Luther King. On thinking it over, Tom Cruise is probably more famous than all of them, except maybe Elvis. That’s fame for you.

If a black man discovered electricity, it was through being struck by lightning. Oh, and Einstein, though he did become a US citizen, didn’t invent the A-bomb, though of course the inventors of the bomb drew on his relativity theories, and he wrote FDR a letter in 1939 saying “you might want to have someone look into this bomb possibility…”.

Posted by at 10:16 PM on February 6


“The study acknowledges that the emphasis on African-American figures by the schools leaves behind not only 18th- and 19th-century figures but others as well, such as Hispanic icon Cesar Chavez, Native American heroes such as Pocahontas and Sacagawea and labor leaders such as Samuel Gompers and Eugene V. Debs.”

Thus the media flaunt a cheap charade of surprise! Only one white in THIS list — MAYBE. Gompers is an edomite and Debs has earmarks as well.

Posted by Fillard Millmore at 11:17 PM on February 6


A poster mentioned the discoverer(s) of penicillin as his choice of great Americans:

Actually, 3 British scientists discovered penicillin in 1928, Alexander Fleming, Howard Florey and another guy whose name was Thomas Chain, I believe.

Posted by Soprano Fan at 4:13 AM on February 7


Gee, thanks, Professor Wineburg! Should we patting ourselves on the back for ensuring that Oprah and Marilyn Monroe are more famous than Einstein and Edison? After all, being black and female obviously trumps scientific achievement in our new shining age of reason.

If a historian comes across this article five hundred years from now, he’ll most likely wonder why 21st century intellectuals spent so much time obsessing over multicultural trivia. It’ll read like medieval scholasticism reads today.

Posted by Hawnky at 7:10 AM on February 7


My nephew came home from school (10th. grade) and was telling me that the teacher told the class that a black male invented the LIGHT BULB and that THOMAS EDISON stole the idea and patented it.

Posted by T-Rexx at 11:01 AM on February 7


Just for the fun of it… Just for my own information… I traced back a few of the INVENTION CLAIMS of blacks. I wasn’t surprised when 99% wound up being total fraud. Just One Example, how they claim a black invented the TRAFFIC SIGNAL what a joke. A black patented a wooden hand operated traffic signal in the U.S. that had been used in England for many years before. General Electric invented the Modern Electric Signal. LOL.. Oh I bet the true story is a black invented it and G.E. Stole the idea.. The Genius Of blacks Never Ceases To Amaze Me.

Posted by TruBaDor at 11:07 AM on February 7


How come Michael Jackson didn’t make the list?

Posted by Larry at 12:05 PM on February 7


My nephew came home from school (10th. grade) and was telling me that the teacher told the class that a black male invented the LIGHT BULB and that THOMAS EDISON stole the idea and patented it.


Posted by T-Rexx at 11:01 AM on February 7

This is happening more and more where the blacks are claiming all kinds of achievements when they have contributed nothing new to the world. I’ve been sending protest emails whenever I see anything this ludicrous and deceptive from any agency. Please challenge them so that the white people who have contributed so much to the world will be properly credited. There’s nothing more outrageous than this filthy lying propaganda of the black leadership to puff themselves up with false pride through stealing others’ accomplishments.

Posted by realist at 7:11 PM on February 7


“Actually, 3 British scientists discovered penicillin in 1928, Alexander Fleming, Howard Florey and another guy whose name was Thomas Chain, I believe.”

But it took Americans to actually mass produce it so as to allow the drug to be used as a practical, inexpensive treatment.

https://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/1996/ihy960452.html

Penicillin: The Miracle Drug

Posted by at 10:06 PM on February 7


Have mercy! I had read a few articles that Einstein was a created “genius”…He was neither smart or a genuis. His work was stolen from a couple of Germans and other European men who were the real genius’s…..

Posted by at 10:15 PM on February 7


“There’s nothing more outrageous than this filthy lying propaganda of the black leadership to puff themselves up with false pride through stealing others’ accomplishments.”
Posted by realist at 7:11 PM on February 7

This is the link to e-mail to as many people as possible, especially any students you know:

https://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

Posted by at 11:23 PM on February 7


The URL below debunks the revisionist history lies disseminated by our government schools claiming blacks invented all sorts of things when in fact they did not. If they were so intelligent why did African blacks never invent a written language or discover the wheel? Their greatest invention was the blowgun and the Latin American Indians invented that long before the blacks did…

https://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

Posted by at 2:24 PM on February 8


The bandwidth of this customer has been exceeded…..on the above link to 33 brinkster…..Could it be they don’t want any truth leaked out that blacks and othe minorities did not invent, the stole?

Posted by at 10:21 PM on February 8


What do you want to bet if those school kids were asked to list the most NOTORIOUS figures in history, they’d all be white males?
When it comes to villains the “Multiculturalists” are suddenly completely EUROCENTRIC.
But when it comes to heroes, they are completely EUROPHOBIC.

Posted by at 11:03 PM on February 8


“…Actually, 3 British scientists discovered penicillin in 1928, Alexander Fleming, Howard Florey and another guy whose name was Thomas Chain, I believe….”

Actually Alexander Fleming was a SCOTSMAN, not English (my Scottish grandfather would roll over in his grave if he knew Fleming was being referred to as ‘English.’)

To set the record straight (with information you will never find in an average American high school textbook, which I’m sure claims blacks discovered penicillin only to have it stolen by Whites).

”..Sir Alexander Fleming (6 August 1881 – 11 March 1955) was a Scottish biologist and pharmacologist…. His best-known achievements are the discovery of the enzyme lysozyme in 1922 and discovery of the antibiotic substance penicillin…”

“…Chain was born in Berlin to a Russian father who moved from his birth land to study chemistry abroad, and a German Berliner mother…” (Chain was Jewish BTW).

”..Born the youngest of five children in Adelaide, South Australia, Florey was a brilliant student…who was educated at St Peter’s College, Adelaide…”

Just one of many GREAT White achievements. Tell as many people as you know; I am sick of Whites (especially children) being taught that THEY are the scourge of the earth, responsible for all its ills, instead of being told of their great creativity and accomplishments with which they gifted the entire world.

Bon

Posted by BonBon at 5:07 PM on February 9


“The bandwidth of this customer has been exceeded…..on the above link to 33 brinkster…..Could it be they don’t want any truth leaked out that blacks and othe minorities did not invent, they stole?”
Posted by at 10:21 PM on February 8

When you are able to access that site, COPY it, e.g. into a .pdf. Give proper credit to site it came from and DISTRIBUTE IT FAR AND WIDE!!!!


Posted by at 1:32 AM on February 10


After working in the California school system for the last 27 years if you do not home school your kids and control their education you are a damn fool.

Posted by at 1:12 PM on February 10


“I was driving a `71 Chevy pickup with an “iffy” alternator across West Texas in the dead of night a few years back. Out of the darkness loomed a simple green sign that said the next town and gas was 116 miles further on. In the dark, lit only by the dim glow of dashboard gauges it hit me. “Oh God,” I said, half in prayer and half in new found appreciation, “I`m Fu*&!%g Lindbergh!” Everyone else is just another politician or General playing at war with other peoples lives in my book. That`s my vote…

Posted by Tim Mc Hugh at 6:34 PM on February 5”


And this pointless anecdote has what to do with this topic exactly?

Posted by Danny at 9:22 PM on February 10


“And this pointless anecdote has what to do with this topic exactly?!?” That the guy who invents a cure that saves millions is STILL “less involved” than the guy who puts his own life on the line. And therefore less of a hero and less deserving of our repect, though possibly not our gratitude. Have YOU ever driven across West Texas in the dead of night? Danny? Try it! Gives you lots of time to think about what and who is important in life…

Posted by Tim McHugh at 10:28 PM on February 11


Who cares what the average high school kid thinks? Most can’t spell or use even the most basic rules of English grammer. They seem to be in large part, BRAIN WASHED bumpkins?

Posted by Petey at 12:25 PM on February 17



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