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Adam Jadhav, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, February 9, 2008

With so many people asking why, a brother of gunman Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton provided answers Friday that prompted fresh anger over the shooting rampage at a Kirkwood City Council meeting Thursday.

Gerald Thornton told reporters in front of Kirkwood’s City Hall that his brother had had enough of his fight with the city. Thornton pointedly refused to judge his brother’s action.

“He himself tried what he considered all the avenues he had available,” Gerald Thornton said. “For him to build up the need to go and do what he did, it had to be on the same level as a person that would declare war.”

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At a neighborhood meeting in the mostly black Meacham Park neighborhood, where Thornton lived, people cried, prayed and spoke of a racial divide. Some spoke sympathetically of Thornton and his rage over repeated parking and permit citations. One man called him a “hero.”

Many say they are sickened by Thornton’s brand of vigilantism. But others say they’re left outside the mainstream and oppressed by unfair rules. Those people mourned Thornton and directed their anger back at Kirkwood officials.

“There are rules and we make them and enforce them,” said Collinsville Mayor Stan Schaeffer, a friend of Kirkwood Mayor Mike Swoboda, critically injured in the shootings. “On the other hand, emotions run high when your property and your rights are perceived to be violated.

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Cable television on Friday broadcast Gerald Thornton’s statements across the country: “This was an act of war by my brother. He had people that he was in battle with.”

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Gerald Thornton has his own history of violence. He spent more than five years in prison for fatally stabbing a man in 1996.

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In Kirkwood, PJ’s Tavern co-owner Bill Friedrichs said: “If they think that the only way to deal with these issues is through these means, there’s a tremendous lack of understanding in that community, in Meacham Park.”

In the neighborhood, between Interstate 44 and railroad tracks, about 100 people — a third of them white — held a two-hour meeting Friday afternoon. The frustration was clear.

“To me, Charles Thornton is a hero,” said Ben Gordon of Webster Groves. “He opened a business. He went to court, but the system failed him.  . .; . We are sorry, we grieve, but (Kirkwood officials) share in this responsibility.”

Harry Jones, an elder at Men and Women of Faith Ministries, said a gulf exists between blacks and whites in Kirkwood, one that will take years to close.

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Harry Jones, an elder at Men and Women of Faith Ministries, said a gulf exists between blacks and whites in Kirkwood, one that will take years to close.

When a crazed man, who refused to follow simple rules, kills innocent people that were merely doing their job, and then is made out to be a hero….yep, thats going to cause a divide.

Posted by Kellie at 5:55 PM on February 11


“He went to court, but the system failed him.”

Hardly. This is the same excuse in every single instance. “Cookie” failed; the system was working fine.

Posted by Guillaume at 6:05 PM on February 11


Gerald Thornton has his own history of violence. He spent more than five years in prison for fatally stabbing a man in 1996.

“To me, Charles Thornton is a hero,” said Ben Gordon of Webster Groves. “He opened a business. He went to court, but the system failed him. … We are sorry, we grieve, but (Kirkwood officials) share in this responsibility.”

When you have an IQ of 80 or less it will always be the white man’s fault. When approached by the likes of “Cookie”, Gerald & Ben Gordon of Webster Groves there’s only one course of action and it’s not cerebral discourse.

Posted by I'M NOT SUICIDAL. ARE YOU? at 6:19 PM on February 11


“Harry Jones, an elder at Men and Women of Faith Ministries, said a gulf exists between blacks and whites in Kirkwood, one that will take years to close.”

Damned right there is and it grew into a Grand Canyon sized chasm last week.

If I’m a White man in the St. Louis area (fortunately I don’t live there), I’ll spend the rest of my mortal life making sure the same people that lionize the cowardly and dead Thornton don’t EVER have have a chance to bring their “hero” values anywhere near me and mine. If that means packing heat, so be it.

Posted by Annoyed In Illinois at 6:27 PM on February 11


The reaction of whites is sadly familiar. Condemning the ‘tragedy’ without acknowledging the fact that blacks are at war with them. Even with blacks flat out stating it in national media, our good, liberal, nonjudgmental whites still keep their head in the sand.

Posted by Civilized Neighbor at 6:31 PM on February 11


Gerald Thornton has his own history of violence. He spent more than five years in prison for fatally stabbing a man in 1996.

The N.R.A used to say that gun control laws were racist.They were designed to prevent black people from owning guns.I guess those silly laws that denies gun rights to convicted felons are also racist.My question is how does a black convicted felon get a gun.The answer is from another black person.

Posted by Tony Soprano. at 6:35 PM on February 11


Leave it to blacks to romanticize violence, to include murder. They’ve been doing it since their first riot when they found it profitable to loot vandalize, and otherwise their own neighborhoods. Among blacks (who love all things government), rules and laws are for whites. If you enforce them, you might get killed.

Blacks are an incredibly violent race and that, where ever they live in the world.

btw: If this man murdered another man by stabbing him to death, why did he only serve five years?

Posted by Proactive at 6:36 PM on February 11


What “avenues” did he try? All he had to do was follow the rules like every other business owner but he didn’t want to do that, he wanted to do whatever he wanted. When he didn’t get his way he resorted to murder. This is no “hero” this is a despicable animal, and anyone who praises what he did is also a despicable animal.

Posted by Amazed at 6:40 PM on February 11


I hate to say it but I can understand to a great degree why this happened and it wouldn’t break my heart if it happened to a significant number of our so-called leaders and corporate elite…and it probably will if they continue to back the working majority into a corner and make them feel they have nothing to lose.

Posted by James at 6:45 PM on February 11


It seems that there are some questions that are not being answered here. News reports tell us “Cookie” Thornton received many parking tickets for his construction company vehicles. Has anyone established whether these were justified? Was he really the victim of some kind of deep, dark “racist plot”? Or was he just another paranoid black, wanting to blame “de man” for all his personal failings? Believe me, we’ve had a couple of them right here in my midwestern hometown.

What is this big “gulf” that supposedly exists between blacks and whites in Kirkwood? Has anyone pinpointed what these blacks are talking about when they say that? And under what circumstances can it ever be justified, as some of them insist,for a person to walk into a room and shoot dead five other people? When the murderer is black and the victims white?

Posted by Wayne Engle at 6:52 PM on February 11


Many, many blacks were gleeful about the mass killing that was committed by a black racist on the subway tha in New York city in 1993, just read “The End of Racism’ by Dinesh Dsouza.Blacks always complain about the alleged racist leanings of Whitey,but they completely ignore it when they do the same thing.

Posted by Peejay in Frisco at 6:57 PM on February 11



“Harry Jones, an elder at Men and Women of Faith Ministries, said a gulf exists between blacks and whites in Kirkwood, one that will take years to close.”


Always — ALWAYS — the liberal assumption that the gulf can be closed. What if it can’t? What then?

Events like this dreadful bloodbath in MO — and the even more disgusting aftermath of black solidarity for a murder maniac — suggest that IF the gulf can be closed at all, it will take not years but centuries. Possibly even millennia.

And I don’t know about you, but I can’t wait that long.

Posted by The Incredible Shrinking White Man at 6:58 PM on February 11


White America, you asked for it and now you’re going to get it! If you think it’s getting bad, wait until self loathing whites vote in Obama as the next president. Once we get the HAIC (head african in charge) the blacks will assume they have the upper hand and America will become the new Africa. Let’s hope we don’t get everything we deserve for destroying our own race.

Posted by MattL at 7:40 PM on February 11


“But others say they’re left outside the mainstream and oppressed by unfair rules.”

The “Rules” they are talking about here is, of course, White Mans Law. You know, like parking tickets and fines for jaywalking. Rules we learn as children to be able to operate in a civilized manner and live in a civilized society, but are somehow racist to the black man. Next they will demand Islamic law (As they already do in the U.K.) or some made up Kwanzza type tribal code to live under.


Posted by WhiteBread at 7:48 PM on February 11


I generally publish my comments in the Indianapolis STAR forums but this story has caused me to reach outside my normal posting comfort zone and say that this story reflects my sentiments 100%.

You can find out more about me here: https://www2.indystar.com/forums/member.php?u=32166

Posted by White Lightning at 8:30 PM on February 11


“Gerald Thornton has his own history of violence. He spent more than five years in prison for fatally stabbing a man in 1996.”


Only five years huh?

Posted by at 8:41 PM on February 11


I don’t know the details of this case but one thing I know: there was a time when most true Americans would have reacted as Mr. Thornton did had their liberties been usurped to the extent they’re usurped today. Would Davie Crockett have allowed government to dictate to him how he may modify his house? How he must run his business? How he must raise his kids? I think not! It’s to our shame and disgrace that we tolerate being bossed around by government these days. Do you think you own private property? Wrong! You don’t; every thing you think you own, including your own bodies and children, belongs to the government (in its various levels) because they, ultimately, are the ones who decide what may be done with it. In other words, we are slaves. Slaves should, and will occasionally, rebel against their masters. Again, I don’t know exactly what happened here but y’all should know that there have been white men who’ve responded against government similarly and it’s not hard to imagine being driven to such actions by the forces of government and their demands upon us. There comes a time, for each of us, when we say, “enough is enough” and the time for talk and negotiations ends. At that point we declare war on our oppressors. The rebels in the South did it. The American revolutionaries did it. The Palestinians did it. Sooner or later, each of us will either die laying down or standing up. Before Mr. Thornton went on his rampage, nobody was listening to him. Now they’re listening. Whether he was wrong or right, we should remember who our true oppressors are: those in government and their obedient servants in the media. There’s too much to say about this within the scope of one comment but, if not for our government, we’d have very little to fear from blacks, browns or Asians.

Posted by jewamongyou at 9:09 PM on February 11


There is a war going on, and only one side is aware of it. Wake up White people!

Posted by at 9:10 PM on February 11


If Kirkwood is so horrible to the citizens of Meacham Park, then they should part ways, and Meacham Park should become its own city. And they can keep the two shopping centers that now sit where Meacham Park houses used to be, to have a revenue source for the new city. Then they can show all us evil honkey crackers how to do it right.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 9:11 PM on February 11


i thought you had to do something “heroic” to be a hero. gunning down unarmed citizens hardly qualifies, unless you’re black, and a percieved victim.

Posted by dmz at 9:12 PM on February 11


“…a gulf exists between blacks and whites…”

Indeed. They hate us and think it’s fine to kill us. Never forget that.

Posted by at 9:21 PM on February 11


I see some very telling quotes here that really bring the problem into focus. Let me translate a few quotes here:

Quote: “But others say they’re left outside the mainstream and oppressed by unfair rules.”

Translation: Blacks (and Mexicans for that matter)should be exempt from rules that govern otherwise civilized societies. Only whites should abide by the law. In fact, only whites need to be compassionate, sympathetic, patient, understanding and provide charity.

Quote: “He himself tried what he considered all the avenues he had available,”

Translation: Blacks can’t figure out complicated “white” things like paying fines, obeying rules and not being able to do whatever comes into your mind and thinking about the consequences of your actions.

Quote: One man called him a “hero.”

Translation: If you’re black and you get frustrated, killing white people is a perfectly honorable thing to do.

Quote: “This was an act of war by my brother. He had people that he was in battle with.”

Translation: Blacks don’t have to fight fair. You can kill unarmed white bystanders.

Quote: “Gerald Thornton has his own history of violence. He spent more than five years in prison for fatally stabbing a man in 1996.”

Translation: It was probably a white victim, so the 5-years in prison is actually a very long sentence for this black murderer.


Quote: “… said a gulf exists between blacks and whites in Kirkwood, one that will take years to close.”

Tranlsation: Black and white people can never live together, the gulf will never close.

Enough said.

Posted by Lucas M at 9:33 PM on February 11


Can you even begin to imagine what would happen to a white who would defend another white who mercilessly slaughtered 5 blacks? They would be ostracized. They’d get death threats. They would lose their jobs. If they didn’t lose their jobs their workplace would be mercilessly picketed by blacks (who have time to do so since so many are on welfare, anyway).

Posted by Alan at 9:45 PM on February 11


In Missouri, they know how to deal with this kind of mayhem. They call it “setting things right”. Everyone else knows it as “payback”. This will not go down easy. Everyone will remember and no one will forget.

Posted by Memphomaniac at 10:45 PM on February 11


Although I have long known of the dangers and endless issues associated with Blacks, I never really held any personal animus toward them as people. We were different - we didin’t fit together - and that was that.
Over the years this perhaps overly naive view has dimmed considerably. I have grown to genuinely dislike…strongly dislike most American Blacks. Their behavior, attitudes and general demeanor is just obnoxious and intolerably so! The article above illustrates this point perfectly.

Posted by HH at 11:07 PM on February 11


I have news for Harry Jones. The gulf between blacks and whites widens everyday and will never close. Blacks have absolutely no sense of social propriety or morals. And when they get into trouble because they lack these basic sensibilities they start whining racism. And of course when this happens here comes Al and Jesse the ambulance chasers of the culture. It’s just a vicious circle of bad choices within the culture.

Posted by at 11:13 PM on February 11


“In Missouri, they know how to deal with this kind of mayhem. They call it “setting things right”. Everyone else knows it as “payback”. This will not go down easy. Everyone will remember and no one will forget.”
____________
No they don’t, Memphomaniac. You’re living in the past. Whites are now 100 percent pacified. Game over.

Posted by at 11:40 PM on February 11


Amazing how when Blacks kill Whites there is always a call for “healing” from Blacks.
But when a Blacks are killed, most frequently brought on themselves in confrontations with law enforcement, there is a call to arms.

https://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnists.nsf/sylvesterbrownjr/story/6A154595A7C60957862573EA00202CBA?OpenDocument

Posted by at 11:42 PM on February 11


There is a war going on, and only one side is aware of it. Wake up White people!

Posted by at 9:10 PM on February 11

And avoid being killed in your sleep.

Posted by Taurus689 at 11:44 PM on February 11


“There are rules and we make them and enforce them,”

We’ve been waiting on someone, anyone to start enforcing the rules in Indianapolis.

Our people are being gunned down, 15 so far this year including 4 children.

The PC media refuses to identify the ethnicity of those responsible but we all know who they are.

Posted by White Lightning at 12:10 AM on February 12


Quote: “But others say they’re left outside the mainstream and oppressed by unfair rules.”

Quote: But others say they’re left outside the mainstream and oppressed by fair rules.

Posted by tallulululah bankhead at 12:20 AM on February 12


Wait till Obama gets elected. It’ll be open season on all whites.

Posted by DeadWhitey at 12:50 AM on February 12


Theres a local radio station in Buffalo N.Y. in which I hear the host blaming essentially every disorder or mallady of the black community on the delusion of white racism. The other day there was a black woman advocating racial segregation. I say go right ahead, just give me back my taxes/welfare payments.

Posted by NEONMANIAC at 2:44 AM on February 12


The author of this article is right to a certain extent, this incident does show a racial divide, that is obvious, no argrument, but the main thing it shows is a society, (black Americans) whom have a severe lack of morals, they have been breeding offspring for some time now who are not able to live in a civil law abiding society.

Posted by abc at 5:06 AM on February 12


“No they don’t, Memphomaniac. You’re living in the past. Whites are now 100 percent pacified. Game over.”

Posted by at 11:40 PM on February 11

I would prefer to think of Us/Them as anaesthetized. That is showing signs of wearing off soon. Since the end of the Vietnam era we have been what Admiral Yamamoto characterized as a “Sleeping Giant” back in 1941.

I see signs of the Giant stirring again. I just hope that we can regain our “terrible resolve”.

Posted by at 6:03 AM on February 12


I have a suggestion. Why don’t the Blacks elect Black Councilmen? Oh wait a minute! Then they wouldn’t have White people to blame their problems on.

Posted by Drifter at 6:11 AM on February 12


Black gets killed, screams racism! Black kills White, screams racism! Black kills black, screams racism! Obviously, the first word out of a black baby’s mouth is “Racism”!
Blacks are taught to hate Whites; Whites just naturally learn to despise blacks.
And the Feds smile and say “Everything is going as planned”.

Posted by at 6:55 AM on February 12


blacks are the worlds finest at one thing in particular and that is coming up with EXCUSES for every failure in their lives. And the sad thing is how many whites are like foolish sheep in agreement and apologetic for the weakness, laziness and foolishness of these black hypocrites. Many blacks would not hesitate to hurt or injure any white they come across and they frequesntly do. Non blacks and whites in particular better wake up before they have no means of protecting themselves from these heatless animals and then when their children and grandchildren are forced to live under the heavy cruel hand of the blacks they allowed to become strong, it will be too late. blacks don’t demand and take power, we servie it up to them on a silver platter.

Posted by T Rexx at 7:01 AM on February 12


I live in North St. Louis County. No one is guaranteed success in business. No businessman gets to pick and choice the laws they will obey. Other people have property rights too-the vacant lot owner. I note that the murderer didn’t sue the city because the zoning laws weren’t applied fairly but that he could no longer harass city officals at a public meeting-a federal judge said so in her dismissal of the case. This is one of the consequents of affirmative action; the belief that because I’m black, white people should guarantee my success and not hold me to the same rules as white people. Went that doesn’t happen I can react with violence and should be excused. This nonsense can’t go on forever and it won’t, cracks are starting to appear in the facade. Shepard Smith’s remarks are just one small example of how it is getting harder and harder to pretend that the emperor is clothed.

Posted by at 8:14 AM on February 12



“Amazing how when Blacks kill Whites there is always a call for “healing” from Blacks.”

Amen.

Here in Buffalo, we had two (among many) incidents of blacks killing whites. One involved a black guy killing a nun. The other involved a black neighbor who terrorized an elderly white woman and who then ultimately broke into her home, hit her on the head with a hammer and stabbed her in the neck with a screw driver and murdered her. In both instances (and especially the second), the black community came out with their leaders from the black community talking about healing. At one point, they held a vigil in front of the murdered elderly white woman’s home. If I was a member of that family, I would have been out there swinging a baseball bat until the police put me down.

Posted by sbuffalonative at 9:52 AM on February 12


Not all whites are “pacified”.

Posted by at 10:19 AM on February 12


My answer to blacks in America is re-segregation again, that is our most powerful recourse of self-preservation and preventing our own biological and cultural extinction. Blacks think that have the ” right ” to murder us at will in our own communities; this should be our response to the ” Black Plague ” .

Posted by Michigan patriot at 10:22 AM on February 12


outrageous? The sad, true reality is this will GAIN more sympathy for blacks and MORE handouts. Whites just ‘don’t get it’
Look what the LA riots gained - more PC, auto-mistrial, more handouts, more politicians nervous about offending or confronting black antisocial behavior. Liberals, unwittingly are creating a society where violence WORKS.

Posted by at 11:37 AM on February 12


What we must do is make sure Obama the Muslim NEVER WINS. Ff he does….the blacks will be allowed to shoot,on sight, any White who looks at him/her the wrong way. It will be the begining of the end. II that animal had lived…shooting those innocent people would have been justified, as his hoodlum brother had the nerve to say on the news.

Posted by lydia at 12:22 PM on February 12


“Wait till Obama gets elected. It’ll be open season on all whites.

Posted by DeadWhitey at 12:50 AM on February 12”

As long as they target the whites that got him elected it’s a.o.k. with me.

Posted by at 12:45 PM on February 12


>>>Many say they are sickened by Thornton’s brand of vigilantism. But others say they’re left outside the mainstream and oppressed by unfair rules.

A comment that eloquently speaks for the Afro-American mentality. Blacks have the unshakable conviction they should NEVER be held accountable for ANYTHING! Laws are only for Whitey. Blacks have the inalienable right to do or say whatever they feel like; whenever they feel like.

They believe a Black should, at birth, be issued a life-long GET OUT OF JAIL, FREE! card, granting perpetual immunity for any crime that Black will commit in later life. No, of course they won’t ADMIT this belief publicly, but any and every time a Black, ANY Black is charged with a crime, the race card is imediately brandished.

These people simply are lacking the mental ability to understand a society cannot function without sane and reasonable laws and restrictions. That laws, whether they are parking regulations or zoning laws — are for the common good — benefiting the majority of the people even if an inconvenience on a personal level. But that that’s the difference between White human beings and Blacks… Blacks simply cannot grasp that concept.

Posted by Fed Up at 12:46 PM on February 12


Blacks have a double standard could you imagine the uproar if a White person did this and the victims were mostly black?
Certainly the perp would not be viewed as a victim.

Posted by Paul at 12:53 PM on February 12


The blacks that defend him are right. Cookie was at war. In their war, the color of your skin defines the combatants. Simple enough…….

Posted by Army Ranger at 1:05 PM on February 12


““Gerald Thornton has his own history of violence. He spent more than five years in prison for fatally stabbing a man in 1996.”


Only five years huh?

Posted by at 8:41 PM on February 11”

Must have stabbed a White man.

Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 1:24 PM on February 12


I’ve notice the use of many slogans by blacks in this case and I’d like to give an interpretation of a few so whites can understand.

“the system failed” - the black guy lost

“St. Louis has a racial problem” - the white people in St. Louis are not submitting to black pressure as blacks would like.

“white government is oppressing the black minority” - black genetic traits and dispositions are not well suited for a white society and the white folks are not sufficiently adjusting to suit them.

“a gulf exists between blacks and whites in Kirkwood, one that will take years to close.” - an IQ and behavioral trait gulf that can only be lessened by years of race mixing in an Obamanation.

Obama sets the course for the next century. Black “father”, white mother, one new race.

Posted by Patrick Henry at 1:37 PM on February 12


As Gordon and Earl used to say on 920 am in St. Louis, “you can’t solve a problem unless you define it CORRECTLY.”

Posted by at 1:40 PM on February 12


Does all this not make you think of those passive Jews in the thirties who simply could not BELIEVE that something terrible was about to happen? Even as they start rounding us up, you’ll have white liberals trying to “calm our hysteria.”

Posted by Xenophon at 2:50 PM on February 12


“We’ve been waiting on someone, anyone to start enforcing the rules in Indianapolis. Our people are being gunned down, 15 so far this year including 4 children.
The PC media refuse to identify the ethnicity of those responsible but we all know who they are.” — Posted by White Lightning

The more I see of this, the more I am convinced the the Media are the heart of the problem. They are the front line of the enemy. We HAVE TO get control of our media, or we’ll never get back control of our country. Who controls the media, controls the country.

Posted by at 3:09 PM on February 12


“We’ve been waiting on someone, anyone to start enforcing the rules in Indianapolis. Our people are being gunned down, 15 so far this year including 4 children.
The PC media refuse to identify the ethnicity of those responsible but we all know who they are.” — Posted by White Lightning

The more I see of this, the more I am convinced the the Media are the heart of the problem. They are the front line of the enemy. We HAVE TO get control of our media, or we’ll never get back control of our country. Who controls the media, controls the country.

Posted by at 3:21 PM on February 12


“blacks are the worlds finest at one thing in particular and that is coming up with EXCUSES for every failure in their lives. “
Posted by T Rexx

Well, not quite. They’re not experts at coming up with excuses - or anything else. They have been HANDED these excuses, always by white enablers and abetters and professional agitators (like Morris Dees). Without them, the blacks wouldn’t have any excuses..

Posted by at 3:22 PM on February 12


“Whites are now 100 percent pacified. Game over.”
Posted by at 11:40 PM

I would prefer to think of Us/Them as anaesthetized. That is showing signs of wearing off …I see signs of the Giant stirring again.
by 6:03AM
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
I see it that way too. Anaesthetized is the right word. They didn’t just fall asleep by themselves.

Posted by at 3:22 PM on February 12


“Our people are being gunned down, 15 so far this year including 4 children.

The PC media refuses to identify the ethnicity of those responsible but we all know who they are.”

They are the fifteen about whom we heard. How many are there who are killed and their deaths go unreported by the MSN; especially Whites who are stabbed to death in less spectacular circumstances. If there is a firearm involved with multiple White victims it gets the coverage although the “hate crime” factor is ignored. Do we really believe that if the city administrators had been Black, that this monster would have shot them?

Individual killings of Whites by knife or beating don’t get widespread coverage.

Posted by Taurus689 at 3:48 PM on February 12


The Duke LaCrosse situation is the one that really woke me up. Since then I have been reading and observing “race” relations.
I now avoid Africans every chance I get. I avoid them in a store, a mall, everywhere.

For example, in the moring I get a cup of coffee at a local convenience store. If I see an African in there, I am prone to stay in the car and listen to morning hate talk radio. When he leaves, then I go in.

If an African enters the store, while I am in it, I keep an eye on him. I will NOT let him be behind me in line, but I will move around such that I am behind him. I alwasy watch his hands and I am always ready to act.

In a China-Mart (Wal-Mart) I avoid groups of Africans. If I see some, I will go down another aisle. I use a different check out line but watch them.

When I pull into a parking lot, I will first look about for any groups of canadians. I always park away from all other cars so no car blocks me in the front or sides. Plus when I am walking to my car I can see all around it. I have taught my wife that.

When at my car, I look around constantly. If any canadians are near by, I stand there and look at them. Let them know I see them. I get in my truck/van/car (I own 3 vehicles) while I constantly watch them. In the truck/van/car, I put my Glock on the seat beside me. (Usually it is in the door pocket since I can get to it while using the door as a cover as I open the door)

For those of you who have made fun of those of us talking about guns, don’t you see that we were alwasy right? If Obama wins, it will be open season on whites. If he doesn’t win, expect violent riots in the typical multicultural diverse neighborhoods (“communities”). You had best buy guns NOW since the government already has on the books the necessary paper work for a “State of Emergency” where the first stores to be closed will be any gun shop. (They will keep the liqour stores open, I’ll bet).

Posted by LOGIC at 4:11 PM on February 12


Having grownup in St. Louis, I remember reading articles in the Post in the mid 40’s and 50’s about the violent acts caused by the coloreds at that time. I dismissed these as a St Louis type problem. Now 50 to 60 years later it’s getting worse. If things continue in this direction, what is the solution? More bloodshed?

Posted by stripes 919 at 4:27 PM on February 12


Translation: It was probably a white victim, so the 5-years in prison is actually a very long sentence for this black murderer.

Interracial murder is more heavily penalized than intraracial murder, in both directions.

Posted by Svigor at 4:52 PM on February 12


One thing I’d like to point out is that much of the blame for black behavior lies with whites. Do you blame a lion for hunting when released from its cage?

White liberals have turned black America loose, and made it very clear that they can get away with murder if they scream “racism.”

How is that blacks’ fault? When whites put pressure on blacks, blacks’ behavior was much better.

I don’t blame blacks for being what they are, I blame whites for betraying their own for personal gain, and other civilized groups for aiding and abetting this insanity for their own ethnic interest.

Posted by Svigor at 4:59 PM on February 12


Take a recent joke on Howard Stern’s show as an example: Stern’s token called a moron (literally) on the phone and told him to wait for the “test results” from “Dr. Stern”; Stern got on the line and told the moron that he got his tests back and they showed that the moron was “not retarded.” The moron responded, “YAAAAAY!!!!”

This is very close to an analogy I’ve used to highlight my point above about who’s responsible for black misbehavior; this poor simpleton is now likely to go around telling people he’s not retarded, get very agitated when treated differently, etc. He’d be much better off facing his own limitations, rather than being told the world is to blame for his difficulties.

P.S., I don’t mean to absolve blacks for blame, merely to point out that they are incompatible with our society, unable to live up to our norms, that it is wrong for us to expect them to, and white liberal behavior has made black behavior even worse than it has to be.

Posted by Svigor at 5:05 PM on February 12


Has anyone else noticed that when theres a “racial divide,” its the WHITES that are expected to do the things to “heal” this wound. The Whites in Kirkwood are ALREADY saying that THEY have to meet with the blacks of Meacham Park to start the “healing.” In the minds of most blacks, “healing” means more affirmative action, section 8 housing,welfare etc.. White people always reward blacks for assaulting them, and then wonder why blacks keep attacking them! These same spineless Whites will probably even put up a statue of “Cookie” in front of City Hall where they can gather every year to place flowers, light candles and hold hands with their black brothers and sisters in “racial harmony! Sometimes I wonder how I can sleep at night!!

Posted by Tom S at 5:16 PM on February 12


PACK.

PACK and no excuses.

Posted by at 5:23 PM on February 12


No they don’t, Memphomaniac. You’re living in the past. Whites are now 100 percent pacified. Game over.

The pacification of whites depends on the presumption that the government is basically fair, ethical and efficient. It certainly isn’t fair, it’s not quite ethical, and it’s only somewhat efficient. But if you think it’s bad now then wait until “underrespresented minorities” (blacks and Hispanics) become much larger portions of the government, especially the criminal justice system, than they already are. Government breaks down, starts acting as if this were a Third World country, and it’s back to the Wild Wild West. And we saw what folks in the Wild West did to the Injuns, didn’t we?

That isn’t to say that a race war is in the future. That’s to say that if we’re all wrong, and a multicultural future isn’t so bad, then there’s nothing to worry about - we’re just a bunch of pessimists. If we’re right, and multiculturalism means tyrrany, then whites won’t sit idly by.

Posted by Alan at 5:29 PM on February 12


Here is a picture of an Obama campaign office in Texas. I don’t have to explain to Amren readers what the Che flag means. Be sure to watch the video.

https://lonestartimes.com/2008/02/11/obama-office-adores-psychotic-marxist-thug/#comments

Posted by Joe McCarthy at 5:55 PM on February 12


Blacks are incapable of accepting responsibility, either on an individual or communal level. They simply adopt the Pavlovian view that it is “Whitey’s” fault and absolve themselves. This is their twisted mentality.

Posted by at 6:03 PM on February 12


QUOTE: “…We are sorry, we grieve, but (Kirkwood officials) share in this responsibility.”

What an absurd comment. Perhaps the Kirkwood officials shouldn’t have stepped in front of the bullets? If I recall, a previous article indicated that Kirkwood had offered to forgive the outstanding fines in exchange for a promise to obey ordinances in the future. “Cookie” apparently didn’t like that answer. It makes me wonder what answer he was seeking.

QUOTE (jewamongyou): “There comes a time, for each of us, when we say, “enough is enough” and the time for talk and negotiations ends. At that point we declare war on our oppressors.”

I don’t see parking citations as reasonable grounds to spark a war. Ordinances prohibiting commercial vehicle parking in residential neighborhoods are widespread and serve a legitimate purpose. I’m not fond of parking meters, but I haven’t shot any.

Posted by Slapjack at 6:45 PM on February 12


Cable television on Friday broadcast Gerald Thornton’s statements across the country: “This was an act of war by my brother. He had people that he was in battle with.”

This statement perfectly exemplifies the mindless romanticism of the multicultural elite eagerly promulgated by the mainstream media.

In college, I remember seeing silly posters on office doors; “Revolution In The Gulf” - a red poster with a black arm upraised clutching a AK47, “Che” - the ubiquitous iconographic image of Che Guevara, and other graphic arts drivel.

It has been said before of left that “they don’t think, they just have attitudes”.

From the limousine liberals’ elite soirees, to which are invited the either soon to be jailed or recently released far left cause-celeb loons lending a frisson of fashionable fear to an otherwise boring affair, to that execrable noise depicting “gangsta life”, one gets a sense of a society utterly without virtue and so degenerate as to make one turn away in revulsion.

I could go on, but I think I’ve made myself clear. Many of the denizens of this society make me wish for nothing so much as an escape to another planet.

Posted by at 7:48 PM on February 12


Ten things To Do Before The Election:

1. Clean your rifle.

2. Clean your handgun.

3. Sharpen your knives.

4. Lay in stocks of water purification supplies, ammo, and food.

5. Make sure you vehicles’ gas tanks are always at least half full.

6. Make arrangements as to where you are going when the cities erupt into riots.

7. If at all possible, pre-position supplies at that location.

8. Buy, and take physical possession of, gold and silver.

9. If your loved ones don’t already know how, teach them to defend themselves. This will involve teaching a change in society’s normal rules of engagement, i.e. defend yourself AT ALL COSTS.

10 . KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT about your preparations.

If Barack Hussein Obama wins the presidency, the cities will explode in alleged “victory” celebrations. If he loses, the cities will explode because racist Whites kept their homie from winning.

Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 7:52 PM on February 12


A black felon with a gun who murders unarmed whites is a “hero” while a white who attempts to defend himself against black thugs is a “racist”.
American blacks have in many cases succeeded in obtaining the veneer of respectability. What lies underneath is the same old tribal savagery that can be seen in South Africa on a daily basis.
There was a very good reason that Lincoln wanted to found a society for the repatriation of blacks and did not think that whites and blacks could live together in the same society.
Of course the white latte liberals will likely elect Obama to the presidency; just imagine America ruled by your typical African strong man — -this will surely help raise the already overconfident level of black self-esteem. Perhaps then it will become legal to murder whites, as long as they are innocent and unarmed.

Posted by at 7:58 PM on February 12


Just wait, if Obama becomes president, blacks will turn this country into such a violent hell hole that South Africa will look like Disney World in comparison.

Posted by Badvok at 8:08 PM on February 12


Lucas, very good post. I would add this:

“….Thornton…had twice been convicted of disorderly conduct for disrupting meetings in May 2006…”

“…Thornton insisted that Kirkwood officials violated his constitutional rights to free speech by barring him from speaking at the meetings….”

Translation: Blacks’ idea of civil discourse is to interrupt, disrupt and especially Shout Down those with whom they disagree.

Whites have No Right to challenge this black right not afforded to Whites and if their demands are not met, resorting to violence is an acceptable alternative to get the point across because they are ‘oppressed by unfair rules.’ Rules that everyone but blacks must follow, of course.

In the black community, this is seen as heroic.

As I realize that black have limited reasoning power, I have learned in dealing with them to raise my voice (as they do) look them in the eye when I’m speaking, and speak in short, strong declarative sentences. And even then, they usually won’t see any other way except their own.

And after studying black crime rates, I avoid them as much as possible.

Bon

Posted by BonBon at 8:46 PM on February 12


This nonsense is the same excuse Brian Nichols used for killing 4 people ( a black plus 3 whites)and wounding, carjacking, and terrorizing others (black, white, &Asian;) when he went on his infamous crime spree at an Atlanta courthouse 3 yrs. ago next month. The justice system “is unfair to blacks”? Nichols admitted the judge he killed had been fair to him, and the guy was a bleeding heart.

Posted by Cindy at 9:08 PM on February 12


There is a widespread belief among blacks that laws should not apply to them: Laws are just white man’s tools of oppression, you see. And likewise that blacks should be able to criminally victimize whites freely. This is now widely taught in law schools across the country as “Critical Race Theory”. A typical example is Regina Austin, a widely PRAISED black racist professor at University of Pennsylvania:
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2168
“Austin pours scorn on such “traditional values” as “conformity to the law,” which she insists will “intensif[y] divisions within the black community.” Austin has also called on blacks to engage in outright lawbreaking, …”

This makes you really want to hire blacks doesn’t it? It is black Nazis like this academic parasite, living off working whites’ tax dollars so she can spend full time encouraging extreme racial hatred against whites, who are in reality the REAL oppressors of blacks, encouraging the rampant pathological behaviors that are the root cause of blacks’ woes.

Keep in mind that this is a LAW professor at a public university teaching and advocating LAWLESSNESS. Since this part of her courses she teaches she should be FIRED for incompetence. Just as an astronomy professor teaching as fact astrology would be FIRED. Not to mention her abusing her position for advancing a black Nazi agenda and hate-whitey propaganda.
“Asked in a 1999 interview to describe how she views her role as a legal scholar, Austin answered that it “should start with the premise that black people are at the center of the universe and go on from there.” Imagine a white professor saying this, but substituting “white” for “black”: There’d be a national scandal and he’d be immediately fired.

Posted by at 9:59 PM on February 12


The Whites in Kirkwood are ALREADY saying that THEY have to meet with the blacks of Meacham Park to start the “healing.”
In the minds of most blacks, “healing” means more affirmative action, section 8 housing,welfare etc.. White people always reward blacks for assaulting them, and then wonder why…. Tom S.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“Start the healing”. It really means start the white groveling. Start the appeasement. Start the bootlicking. PLEASE don’t attack us and kill us any more! We promise to reward you if you’ll just be nice.

“Healing” — that’s one of the racially loaded terms (like “Change”) that starts a slow fire in me. I’d rather root out the cancer than try to “heal” it.

Posted by voter at 10:34 PM on February 12



” if their demands are not met, resorting to violence is an acceptable alternative to get the point across because they are ‘oppressed by unfair rules.’ rules which everyone else must follow…
In the black community, this is seen as heroic.”
Bon
— — — — — — — — —
It’s seen as “standing up to The Man”, which in their view, is to be applauded, never disapproved. Anything that puts The Man in his place is laudable.

It’s not wrong against right, it’s black against white.
Black always trumps white. [For further reference, see the OJ case.]

Posted by browser at 10:42 PM on February 12


“this is a LAW professor at a public university, teaching and advocating LAWLESSNESS. Since this is part of the courses she teaches, she should be FIRED for incompetence. Not to mention abusing her position for advancing a black Nazi agenda and hate-whitey propaganda.”
posted by 9:598PM
……………………………………….
Very interesting post about Prof. Regina Austin! But incompetence? No, it’s something much worse than that. Incompetence is at least involuntary, but it’s not wilful, it’s not evil. And, btw, please don’t call them Nazis. (Nazis deserve better.)

Why, I wonder, do whites put up with this? When will it end? I fear, perhaps only after a new Dark Age has fallen upon us — as some posters here are ominously predicting. Only then, after centuries of misery and turmoil have passed, the new civilization that emerges from the crucible will be utterly transformed from the old, and nothing will ever be the same again.

It’s like emerging from an ice age, or the periodic kill-offs that have hit the planet: when life emerges once again, everything is fresh and new and radically changed; the old experiment is forever over.

Posted by ghw at 11:34 PM on February 12


“…Black always trumps White. [For further reference, see the OJ case.]…”

Posted by browser at 10:42 PM on February 12

Gender as well. Just ask that idiot Marcia Clark:

Steve Sailer writes:

“…Johnny Cochran, understood but feminist D.A Marcia Clark didn’t: race trumps gender in the victimology sweepstakes. (Cochran wanted blacks on the jury while the clueless Clark wanted women. So Johnny let Marcia throw him in the briar patch by packing the jury with black women.)…”

https://www.vdare.com/sailer/080210_mccain.htm

Bon

Posted by BonBon at 8:59 AM on February 13


How typical. Off a few whites and suddenly you’re a hero.

I cannot recall the last time I heard the black community call one of their own who killed white people what they are - a murderer!

Posted by Dark-Star at 10:06 AM on February 13


“Why, I wonder, do whites put up with this?”

Because we’ve been conditioned by our education systems to feel guilt for what our ancestors have done. Any white person is made to feel guilty for what white men have done hundreds of years before their birth…

Posted by Pete at 11:07 AM on February 13


Voter makes an excellent point -
““Healing” — that’s one of the racially loaded terms (like “Change”) that starts a slow fire in me. I’d rather root out the cancer than try to “heal” it.”“
You don’t “heal” cancer, you cut it out, zap it with radiation, poison it with drugs, eradicate it so it can do no more harm to the body.

Posted by Superman at 11:17 AM on February 13


Here’s an interesting item on MSN News… of all things

>>>It’s hard to shock people in this modern wired world, but even the chief deputy of the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s office in Florida found the security camera video of a jailer dumping a paralyzed man out of his wheelchair appalling

The picture and video show the deputy to be a Black female, the paralyzed victim WHITE!

Now picture the national stink were the racial identities reversed!!! Certainly worth of front-page exposure for at least a month, wouldn’t you say? OH, SORRY! I am so dumb. I completely forgot that race crimes can only be termed as such where the victim is Black, the perp is White. This story has to be considered a misunderstanding or at worst, an industrial accident or something similar.

>>>The deputy shown dumping Sterner on the floor, Charlette Marshall-Jones, 44, has been suspended without pay while the sheriff’s office investigates the incident. Three other deputies who witnessed the incident without objection have been placed on administrative leave.

But bet on it, the deputy will receive her back pay with interest and probably a bonus when the race hustlers, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (that name reminds me of something similar-sounding but not quite complimentary) get into the act.

Does ANYONE really not understand WHY there is so much anti-Black feeling, even hatred or anger, sweeping over our country. Given the reality that for EVERY race-motivated crime by a White person, there are probably A HUNDRED BLACK-ON-WHITE race crimes perpetrated annually.

Posted by Fed Up at 1:15 PM on February 13


“Cochran wanted blacks on the jury while the clueless Clark wanted women. So Johnny let Marcia throw him in the briar patch by packing the jury with black women.…”

Just one more example of how whites are kept in the dark about the covert racial war that is being conducted against us.
Cochran knew. Meanwhile, clueless Clark had no idea.

Posted by voter at 2:49 PM on February 13


This is why I think the next age will be ruled by Northeast Asia. China, Japan, Korea, etc… We have lost our will, our common sense, our survival instincts, and our ability to distinguish right from wrong. May we be treated as well as we have treated others, but I doubt it!!!

Posted by realist at 3:05 PM on February 13


To Memphomaniac,

I hope that white people do not forget. Black terrorists need to be dealt with like Bin Laden is dealt with. Black terrorism is real and the white Bolshevik liars are also terrorists.

Posted by Elrey Jones at 5:27 PM on February 13


We found out today (Wednesday, February 13), in the wake of the funeral of Alderwoman Connie Karr that, even though she lived in northwestern Kirkwood, fairly close to Sen. Claire McCaskill (who attended the services), she served as the Secretary of the Meacham Park Neighborhood Association, which is the polar opposite of Kirkwood from her geographically, economically and racially. And she was lauded for her efforts to try to reconcile black and white Kirkwood.

Therefore, the pattern here is that Swoboda, Yost, Carr and Hessel all tried to do Thornton himself and/or the African-American community (New Orleans’s, in Yost’s case) a favor, and they were shot, killed or targeted in spite of it. Or maybe because of it.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 6:11 PM on February 13


The tone of most articles is that “cookie” committed a wrong, but that the evil white establishment really pushed him too far. The majority of blacks will see this murderer as a victim and hero, especially because he killed white people, the archenemy of the innocent black race. And believe me when I tell you that most blacks see themselves at war with white people.

Blacks, being totally emotional and irrational, care nothing for the facts of this case and they’ll always rationalize murders of innocent white people. Further, they really don’t understand or agree with municipal rules and regulations which is why black run cities and towns are in total disarray. It’s a race thing. They don’t get us and we don’t get them.

What’s really galling is for “jewamongyou” to liken “cookie” to some liberty loving fredom fighter or Davy Crockett is completely nuts. But then again his screen name explains everything.

Cookie is no black Randy Weaver protecting his family and property from renegade feds. He’s a cold blooded criminal who had no right to breath the same air as white people of Kirkwood.

Posted by Super Dave at 10:33 PM on February 13


Ever notice that cities with large black populations have a LOT of violent crime and a LOT of drugs? If you look at the prisons, you’ll note that most of the inmates are Black! I believe that slavery was wrong - but how long are white people going to have to pay for a mistake that happened over 400 years ago?

Black people seem to think that WE owe them!!!

Posted by Dirty Donnie in Ky at 10:58 PM on February 13


If whites allow blacks to get away with this while we’re the majority, imagine how bad it’ll be once we become a minority? On second thought, I think the mexicans are already doing a good job fighting them off for us.

Posted by at 12:07 AM on February 14


12:07am:

The problem is that mexicans are attacking us Whites as well.

Posted by White and proud at 1:34 AM on February 14


If the United States Supreme Court rules that the Second Amendment is an individual right, AND it looks like Obama will win the election, then firearm sales will set an all-time record, I predict.

Posted by Soprano Fan at 3:12 AM on February 14


I think the mexicans are already doing a good job fighting them off for us.

Posted by at 12:07 AM on February 14

For a while now I’ve humored myself with idea that we’re missing the point of the power elite. And one of the reasons is that they can’t come out and tell us.

Meaning, One of the central points of Open Borders with Mexico is for two reasons.

1. Cheap Labor

2. Ethnic Cleansing


Of Blacks of course.

You’ve gotta admit, the thought does have its charms.

Seriously, what do you think would have happened in St. Louis if the council was Hispanic?

“Cookie” never would have killed those people if they were Hispanic because HE would have been killed long before.

Posted by Salty Dog at 6:41 AM on February 14


Of course the white “latte liberals” will likely elect Obama to the presidency; just imagine America ruled by your typical African strong man — Perhaps then it will become legal to murder whites, as long as they are innocent and unarmed.
Posted by at 7:58 PM
— — — — — — — — — —
Remember when NY City had its black mayor, Mayor Dinkins? Blacks in Brooklyn were allowed to riot for several days, going after Jews, while he held the police back, before he reluctantly sent them in. Imagine a black president in a similar scenario!


PS. “Latte liberals” — Now that’s a good term that I must remember!

Posted by browser at 3:21 PM on February 14


Meaning, one of the central points of Open Borders with Mexico is for two reasons.
1. Cheap Labor
2. Ethnic Cleansing

Of Blacks of course. You’ve gotta admit, the thought does have its charms.
— — — — — — — —

Well, I wouldn’t laugh too hard about it. The reason being that at the same time they’re “ethnicly cleansing” blacks, they’re cleansing us out out of the picture too.

Posted by broswer at 8:59 PM on February 14


Well, I wouldn’t laugh too hard about it. The reason being that at the same time they’re “ethnicly cleansing” blacks, they’re cleansing us out out of the picture too.

Posted by broswer at 8:59 PM on February 14

Nope, not laughing about it at all. “Humor myself” is just a manner of speaking, an expression. But I didn’t mean to imply that I think ANY of it is funny. Hardly.

I’m well aware of what their doing to us Brother. That’s why I visit this site and post here.

Posted by Salty Dog at 9:39 PM on February 14


Barack Obama is very dangerous. I don’t understand how all these white people can be so naive. Don’t they find it even a bit odd that 90% of blacks are voting for him (which I fully expected)? They obviously expect a lot from him (e.g., more welfare, the freedom to cause as much trouble as they want with no consequences, etc.). If he wins, I don’t know that there will be rioting - perhaps. But if he loses, there definitely will be unprecendented violence, especially if it’s close. White people need to be prepared. Due to his background, I also don’t trust him with the war on terror - I am not convinced he is on our side.

Posted by at 9:56 PM on February 14


Since Thornton’s legal woes started because he was storing construction materials outside, had it never occurred to him that he could have (A) stored the stuff in his garage, (B) bought a “Tuff Shed” for his back yard and stored it inside that, or (C) rented a self-store unit and used that?

What Thornton has done is demonstrate a very typically African inability to think through a problem and to become enraged when the problem simply refuses to go away by itself.

Posted by Michael C. Scott at 4:19 PM on February 15


Michael C. Scott:

Now we’re finding out that Thornton thought he could get away with doing those kinds of things, and being as lazy as he could with his business materials, when Meacham Park was annexed by Kirkwood in 1991, as he could pre-1991 when it was unincorporated St. Louis County. In other words, when white liberal snooty Kirkwood started enforcing first-world quality of life standards on him, he got mad.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 9:50 PM on February 15


Now we’re finding out that Thornton thought he could get away with doing those kinds of things, and being as lazy as he could with his business materials, when Meacham Park was annexed by Kirkwood in 1991, as he could pre-1991 when it was unincorporated St. Louis County. In other words, when white liberal snooty Kirkwood started enforcing first-world quality of life standards on him, he got mad.

Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 9:50 PM on February 15

Excellent, excellent post.

It’s been a good month for posts here. But if there was a post of the month, you’d get my vote.

It’s a short and sweet one about how we are sliding from the Rule of Law to the Rule of Man. Only in this case the man had a gun. Folks, there is NO reconciliation with people who think like this guy, who are defending him. None.

Posted by Salty Dog at 1:16 AM on February 16


It is time that we return to the sanity of segregation. We don’t want to be with the blacks and we never did. They were not brought here to co-exist, or to govern us, but merely to serve us. Thank you, Massa Abraham. You and your northern army sowed the seeds of America’s eventual destruction.

Posted by Southern Lady at 9:03 PM on February 16


Southern Lady:

Segregation wasn’t truly sane. It was a jerryrigged fix by the South for their shattered social system. And it was only possible to *maintain* the system as long as the rest of the nation turned a blind eye. Remember what happened after the newspapers and TV crews began showing protests being broken up with dogs and hoses? The rest of the country got involved and from there it was a losing battle.

Segregation shouldn’t have happened because slavery never should have happened. Slaves were imported cheap labor for rich whites that couldn’t leave their jobs or complain. Not only did that hurt the lower classes of whites, but when the North decided to free the slaves half the nation was wrecked in the process. We’re still paying the price. And now our enforced labor (transferred tax $) supports blacks! How’s that for irony?

Posted by Dark-Star at 5:52 PM on February 17


Its only a matter of time before good white people form an “Al Qaida” type mindset and let God rule their hearts and actions. I see it coming and welcome it.

Posted by Elrey Jones at 10:33 PM on February 19



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